The best of modern NFS: an NFSHS idea

[Zpectre]

(See post #15 for the car list)

Recently I've been thinking about something like this... An NFSHS car list full of the best vehicles found in the most recent NFS games. I would try to convert 48 cars among those I feel people would be most interested to play with (no crap like Punto, Integra LS, etc.), four of which would be the cop cars (the highpoly GTO is ready). All of them would have upgrades, working driver, custom sound... It's now possible to have all different sounds for the cars and some ProStreet engine sounds are very cool.

However, I don't know how many polies the ProStreet cars have and would need to get a copy of Zmodeler 2.1.0 to be able to import them (and there's a ton of stuff in ProStreet I'd love to put my hands on). Also there are some cool cars which are impossible to convert without serious quality compromise (GT3 RS, Cuda, basically anything with a slightly more complex vinyl). And finally there would be no Ferraris...

I'd like to know how interested you'd be in such work, though I sometimes feel that nowadays converting NFSPS meshes to NFSHS would be a waste because you are not helping the community when using the lower-detail meshes and building lowres textures. The cars won't look good anywhere else because when converting NFSHS versions to like NFSPU you feel as though that car is not using the latter game's full potential... I've made this statement because this is also a discussion about our long-lasting game which the modelling community, with the exception of a few people, seems to have forgotten about... or else they'd be pushing Arushan or someone else to work on those memory issues of NFSHS instead of wasting time with stupid NFSMW... Nevertheless, I could look into the work of people such as Nils and gather inspiration from them.

Oh, and in case I start this stuff I'm willing to learn how to do damage... Don't ask me for dashes, though.

[Rafel]

I'd like to see modern cars in NFS HS
But i don't like cars with a lot of polies. You know, NFS HS is very old. If i use high polies, my game slow down, no pursuit mode and not full grid.
I don't install cars without damage,hehehe, sorry, but IMO damage in NFS HS is very very important.
I like cars of NJ, Freak-DS, Low polies of ML(Ferrari F50, BMW Z4, Dodge Viper...), Bloom and many others designerrs make or made low or mid.polies cars(between 2k and 6000+ or -) with damage and good looking.
I never use dashboard view.
A very detailed car in HS hasn't got sense,IMHO.
A very detailed car is impreesive, i know, but is unplayable and turns very bored.
I play NFS HS everyday

[WiLL]

I Think it Sounds Great..& CooL Zpectre
Hope you can do that?

lol Rafel (I play NFS`4 evrey day)
How can you do that with out it Crashing
Out? sometimes?

[Rafel]

When i play it crashes only sometimes with sound; shows chunks is already release or something else,hehe.
But i use this:


PS
I play a couple of races of NFS Porsche too,hahaha
When i'm worried or i need relax, i play a bit wth NFS IV or V,;if i'm bored, i play NFS IV or V; if i'm angry, i play NFS IV or V. :D:D

[WiLL]

I never seen that Stock Pack before R.
Neat..so what does that help you do mostly?

That was released...... when? A few months ago? I don't even have that SP yet. (Although, I do have the EP's latest)
Cool to see you've got it, Rafael.

Will - its a nice package for all the patches I've (and most online racers I know) ever needed for HS. Although you do have to reinstall HS every few months, no matter what you do.

Zpectre - awesome idea. Since when is releasing new cars not helping the community?

[XJ220]

Well, NFS:PU has got its own converters. That shouldn't be a problem.
But I'm not sure whether we really need PS cars in HS. How many new cars are there in PS compared to C? They'd need a whole lot of tweaking each to be usable in HS... I guess it'd be easier for you to learn modelling a whole car instead of converting that many PS vehicles. Seriously. But then again you've learned much while doing your other conversions I suppose. And they turned out great. Moreover I don't know about the different LOD meshes of PS though... maybe they're like the HP2 meshes and thus a good base for HS cars?

But - whether your mentioned high-poly Pursuit GTO makes sense - I mean it requires the other copcars to be of a very low quality. I prefer to have a comparable quality everywhere. But peoples's opinions differ, so it's not up to me to decide whether high-poly pursuit cars make sense or not...

[Zpectre]

Zpectre - awesome idea. Since when is releasing new cars not helping the community?

Well when you make a car for HS you have to bear in mind several limitations which result in the sacrifice of quality. Basically when you make a car from a late NFS game to HS, it almost has to be only for HS, because PU, HP2, MW, etc. can have cars with more details, and it takes long to convert a car with all the needed stuff.

But still, NFSHS damage is useless in NFSHP2, GTA damage is useless in MW, and so on... Maybe there's not a problem with making cars exclusively for HS. HP2 has a poly limit too. :p I doubt you can run a full grid of those ProStreet poly monsters in that game.

I just need the ZModeler 2 and then I'll work on some sort of a "car list", maybe we could vote for the cars? I have my "must haves" like the 997 Turbo, or the E92, or the Murciélago LP640 (before you ask, the original idea is to reconvert some cars)...

@XJ220: ProStreet has a lot of cool stuff that could be converted (the Escort, the Bimmer E92, the McLaren, the 997 GT2)... And I don't intend to learn hardcore modelling, maybe as a hobby though it's not high in my priority list ATM.

[Lotec]

I think that's a great idea    Here is some of the cars I'd download from Carbon/Pro Street
Audi R8
Bugatti EB 16/4 Veyron
Chevrolet Corvette C6 Z06
Koenigsegg CCX
Lamborghini Gallardo Superleggera
Lotus Elise S2
McLaren F1
Nissan R35 GTR
Pagani Zonda F
Porsche 997 911 GT2, GT3, Turbo

All of these cars are just begging to have good models of them in HS, and yes Viper Jay 5 did the Veyron, Elise and McLaren but they look bad by today's standards and have inaccurate performance, as for the R8, I'd like to see the actual R8 in NFS4, not the concept from Carbon

[Zpectre]

I just took a look at the mesh I downloaded from aironeracing.com and, if there are LOD models, converting from ProStreet should be very easy, at least the basics of it. Some booster pack cars have missing parts, though.

[Rafel]

today's standards are no valid for NFHS. NFSHS is very very old.
That's one of the problems. With news standards NFHSHS is unplayable.
Incompatibilities,Modern games and only high poly cars are kiling this great game for ever.
A game when you can't race pursuit mode, races with only 4 cars and no career mode...
When you can race only with a few cars, only single races... for not boring, you need a new car every week, because you enjoy watching the new car, but after two days...
In NFS HS cars with very detailed interior, detaileds calipers, rollcages,etc have no sense, but IMHO.

[bucksavage]

Wether they come from MW, Carbon or PS, it'd be kick-ass to see em in NFSHS, Zpectre.  Good luck!  I hope the poly counts are decent but I expect them to be ratehr high.

[TS]

I like the idea, but I think with the amount of details/polies in Pro Street and Carbon cars, it's better suited for PU, which has a much higher poly limit for cars.

[bucksavage]

I agree but I really can't use any mods for PU, due to a pathetisad vid card so I am a bit biased on this one.  ME WANT FOR HS!!!!!  heh.  Nut to tellt he truth, they'd be great for any nfs from NFS3 to NFS6.



I dodn't know all the cars in PS, so If I mention one that I like that isn't in the game, let me know.  

So, as for a list of cars....

I agree with Lotec on:
Audi R8 (though Zpectre, your LeMans Quattro is fun)
Chevrolet Corvette C6 Z06
Lamborghini Gallardo Superleggera
Lotus Elise S2
McLaren F1
Nissan R35 GTR
Porsche 997 911 GT2, GT3, Turbo

But.......I'd also like to see:

Porsche Cayman S
New Dodge Challenger SRT-8
Dodge Charger SRT-8
Pontiac G8 GT
Ferrari 599GTB Fiorano (not is PS, right?  but I want it!!!!)  
Mitubishi Lancer EVO X
New Subaru WRX (hatchback or coupe or sedan)
Audi A8 L W12
Audi RS4 (but not a wagon, if such a thing exists)

[Zpectre]

The idea is to refurbish Career Mode and pursuits in which you're the racer. Unfortunately it's very difficult to keep the game from crashing when you have even two midpoly cop cars.

Basic car list:

1) Police

Chevrolet Corvette Z06 Federal Pursuit
Lamborghini Murciélago LP640
Pontiac GTO (to be released soon, now faithful to MW vinyls)
Porsche 997 Turbo

2) Class AAA

Bugatti Veyron 16/4
Ford GT (needs only upgrade)
Koenigsegg CCX
Lamborghini Murciélago LP640
McLaren F1
Mercedes SLR (needs only upgrade)
Pagani Zonda F
Porsche Carrera GT (needs only upgrade)

3) Class AA

Aston Martin DB9
Audi R8
Audi RS4
BMW M3 E92
Chevrolet Corvette Z06
Dodge Viper SRT-10 (needs two upgrades)
Ford Shelby GT500 2007
Lamborghini Gallardo Superleggera
Mercedes SL 65 AMG
Nissan GT-R
Porsche 997 GT3 RS
Porsche 997 Turbo

4) Class A

Acura NSX
BMW Z4 M Coupé
Chevrolet Camaro Concept
Dodge Challenger SRT-8
Lotus Elise 111R
Mazda RX-7
Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution IX MR
Nissan Skyline GT-R
Pontiac GTO
Porsche Cayman S
Subaru Impreza WRX STi (the one after the blobeye)
Toyota Supra Turbo

5) Class B

Alfa Romeo Brera
Audi S3
Chevrolet Cobalt SS
Ford Escort RS Cosworth
Honda S2000
Lancia Delta Integrale Evo
Lotus Europa S
Mazda RX-8
Mitsubishi Eclipse GT
Nissan 350Z
Renault Clio V6
Volkswagen Golf R32

I'd like to fit in the old muscle cars somewhere but I think including them would be too much "underground" since the old NFS games were all about the latest stuff. Post your opinions please.