T3ED Updates (NFS4 Track Editor) by JimDiabolo

[pete9516]

Maybe running T3ED in XP compatibility mode will help.

I've already tried that and it doesn't solve the crash. I'm using normal Windows 7 in no virtual machine but on a normal HDD. If Zalcus20 doesn't have this problem on Windows 7, i am wondering what is the issue here, the problem should lay on my system, but i won't update my OS for this function I wonder what other Windows 7 users would say if there were any yet

One question, 3D Preview is turned off?

Do you mean the small popup window when showing track view? Yes it isn't used when encountering this error.

[JimDiabolo]

Maybe running T3ED in XP compatibility mode will help.

I've already tried that and it doesn't solve the crash. I'm using normal Windows 7 in no virtual machine but on a normal HDD. If Zalcus20 doesn't have this problem on Windows 7, i am wondering what is the issue here, the problem should lay on my system, but i won't update my OS for this function I wonder what other Windows 7 users would say if there were any yet

In fact, I was able to replicate the problem on Windows 7. But not on XP or Win10.
In the new version 4.3.0.405 I have extended and slightly adjusted the Ex & Import function, but I don't think it makes any difference on Win7.

New in Version 4.3.0 (405):
- Ex & Import "Virtual Road, heights, spdfa spdra" now includes VR Left / VR Right, L-Lane Polys / R-Lane Polys, Width L-Polys / Width R-Polys.

[PomFrit]

New in Version 4.3.0 (405):
- Ex & Import "Virtual Road, heights, spdfa spdra" now includes VR Left / VR Right, L-Lane Polys / R-Lane Polys, Width L-Polys / Width R-Polys.

Nice work, but did you use any specific program to edit this exported file ? Now import always failed when i change anything with open office.

[AJ_Lethal]

New in Version 4.3.0 (405):
- Ex & Import "Virtual Road, heights, spdfa spdra" now includes VR Left / VR Right, L-Lane Polys / R-Lane Polys, Width L-Polys / Width R-Polys.

Nice work, but did you use any specific program to edit this exported file ? Now import always failed when i change anything with open office.

Open the CSV with Notepad and delete these two delimiters, for some reason the export/import feature does not export and import column headers properly

[JimDiabolo]

I only testet modifications made with Notepadd++, that's why I missed it. Here is an updated version 4.3.0.406, tested with a modified file by Libre Office.

[pete9516]

In the new version 4.3.0.405 I have extended and slightly adjusted the Ex & Import function, but I don't think it makes any difference on Win7.

Unfortunately, you are right. Import function still results into an app crash.

[JimDiabolo]

In the new version 4.3.0.405 I have extended and slightly adjusted the Ex & Import function, but I don't think it makes any difference on Win7.

Unfortunately, you are right. Import function still results into an app crash.

Can you try if this version makes a difference?

[pete9516]

In the new version 4.3.0.405 I have extended and slightly adjusted the Ex & Import function, but I don't think it makes any difference on Win7.

Unfortunately, you are right. Import function still results into an app crash.

Can you try if this version makes a difference?

I've tried, but the problem still remains. Maybe i should try to put T3ED to another location? Where do you have your T3ED "installed"?

[pete9516]

It also doesn't work when i change the path of T3ED to C:\Program Files\T3ED

[pete9516]

So, this app crash has been driving me nuts, after trying the import function on 3 completely different Windows 7 computers (which were ofcourse not run in a virtual machine), and afterwards trying on my brother's Windows 10 machine, i've come to the conclusion, that this export and import function doesn't work at all on a native Windows 7 OS. Running Windows 7 through a virtual machine on a Windows 10 OS will definitely work, because the native system is a Windows 10. I even got me shown by a clanmate who was running a Windows XP virtual machine on his native Windows 10, that the function works on his side. So i'm asking JimD, do you have a computer where the native operating system is Windows 7? Because if so, you could try to investigate this problem. I bet my ass that nobody here will get this speed file import function work on his native Windows 7. I hope this is important to you, because i really don't want to upgrade to Windows 10 for reasons and i really need this function, because it saves so much time

[JimDiabolo]

So i'm asking JimD, do you have a computer where the native operating system is Windows 7?

No, I got everything on Win10. The rest is on virtual machines. Even when I get the problem on Win7 it won't help me without the debugger. Unfortunately Visual Studio 6 ist only running on XP.

Btw. the latest version
New in Version 4.3.0 (408):
- Fixed "Virtual Road, heights, Speedfiles" view for NFS3.
- New function that shows unknown data. Currently used for HS_Extra (VRoad) and Type6 object data.

What I've discovered so far:
HS Extra Unknow1 first 4 bytes are always FF FF FF FF except when there is a shortcut.

Unknown Type6 object data : Byte Nr. 3 seems to be the weight. It is 0x41 for Cones, 0x42 for little boxes, 0x45 for Kindiak Park Bear.

[AJ_Lethal]

Messed with Type 6 object unknown data, here's what I've found out:


It appears to be big-endian floats

[JimDiabolo]

Messed with Type 6 object unknown data, here's what I've found out:


It appears to be big-endian floats

You're right about the mass (red), it's probably a simple float number. Have you ever tried setting a negative number? In my test, the object kept rolling without stopping.
It looks like the green numbers really do indicate a hitbox. But are probably stored as x, z, y. I looked at the bear from Kindiak Park. The second hitbox value is 2.87625, which is about half the height (5.76).
Since t6 objects can only be changed if they have previously been converted into extra objects, I will try to recalculate the hitbox when converting back.

[AJ_Lethal]

HS Extra Unknow1 first 4 bytes are always FF FF FF FF except when there is a shortcut.

I've messed around with the VRoad unknown data and found out that the 9th and 10th bytes of unknown data for each slice controls whether it's an open area (ergo, weather can affect it) or a closed area (like a tunnel, for example; those often have a value of 02). There's more to it I don't quite understand since there also appears to be a value that controls the width of the "roof" of the slice (for example, the Atlantica Civic Center turn in Atlantica has a roofed half and an exposed half), but I don't know which one could be it since I've tried to fix the issue in Last Resort's beachwalk section where the right sidewalk area is marked as roofed area where it shouldn't.

[JimDiabolo]

HS Extra Unknow1 first 4 bytes are always FF FF FF FF except when there is a shortcut.

I've messed around with the VRoad unknown data and found out that the 9th and 10th bytes of unknown data for each slice controls whether it's an open area (ergo, weather can affect it) or a closed area (like a tunnel, for example; those often have a value of 02). There's more to it I don't quite understand since there also appears to be a value that controls the width of the "roof" of the slice (for example, the Atlantica Civic Center turn in Atlantica has a roofed half and an exposed half), but I don't know which one could be it since I've tried to fix the issue in Last Resort's beachwalk section where the right sidewalk area is marked as roofed area where it shouldn't.

Wow, I didn't expected this information in VRoad data. Great find!