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Started by Butch, Apr 26, 2023, 10:47 AM

pete9516

Quote from: Nikster on Feb 26, 2026, 10:55 PM
Quote from: Butch on Feb 26, 2026,  5:48 AMWhy have coupes and convertibles practically disappeared from current car production? At dealerships, there are only SUVs with bug-like front ends and supercars that all look alike and are out of reach. For games, SUVs are love killers, and supercars pass through gamemodel and end up converted into most wanted with vulgar colors... sadness.

Because copes an cabrios ain't making much money nowadays - your average consumer would rather buy an oversized plastic SUV with tons of display and absolutely no practicality.

Which is kinda sad, really. Back in the day people actually had the ability to buy good, reliable cars like the Mercedes W123-124 and Toyotas of the time.

And now? Plastic SUVs with weakened Inline 3 engines that break down exactly five days after the warranty ends.
Give that man a speaker!!

Here's another good view of why new cars aren't good nomore: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4qX6-LCe3vE
He mainly talks about the steering. What i preferably would moan about is the electronic gas pedals on some newer cars. They give a horrible feeling/response about controlling/managing the throttle

Nikster

Quote from: pete9516 on Today at  1:38 AMHere's another good view of why new cars aren't good nomore: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4qX6-LCe3vE
He mainly talks about the steering. What i preferably would moan about is the electronic gas pedals on some newer cars. They give a horrible feeling/response about controlling/managing the throttle

Damn, I want a Porsche 944 now =D
Such a cool ride, and also it's something that seems cheap enough to be obtainable


As for electronics in modern cars - I think you're right on that one.
Electric stuff just makes it feel completely different from mechanic stuff, and that's exactly the reason EVs arent so fun to drive

Herms

Wow, nice set of photos but thats alot of cars to build. From a time when cars were generally designed by people and not computers.

Modern vehicles are a big disappointment for me. They all look the same, lack actual colour, and feel disposable -especially EVs.

Butch

#603
So in my small collection, it's the Alfa Romeos, 512BB, the M1, the Esprit, the Jensen and the 504 Coupé that I like the most at the moment. I would have hoped that the Swedes would defend their Saab a little.

Cooya -> Yes, The window seals need to be wider.

pete9516, Nikster, Spectre, Cooya -> I think that today's cars are designed for leasing, either long-term or with an option to purchase. The lease payments are converted into financial products that are resold on the market. It's like mobile phone contracts. Under these conditions, customers should not be attached to their cars. I only see the Japanese producing desirable cars, and their financial results, apart from Nissan, are really good. Most of those who own an MX-5 or a GR86 do not consider getting rid of them within three years.
"The way I see it, if you're gonna build a time machine into a car, why not do it with some style?"
NFS4 from scratch:
- 43 classic cars with dashboard
- 17 concept or unique cars
- 11 cars with agentMulder, Madman_nfs and Mr.X

Spectre

You have now piqued my curiosity about Japanese cars. What models do you love from the Japanese?

As for Saab, it's a cute one, but I prefer the Saab 96, Saab 99 Turbo and the 2001 Saab 9X Concept.

Butch

Spectre -> Every Mazda, Toyota GR collection, Honda prelude, swift, vitara, yaris, BRZ . There are two saab sonnet in my collection.
"The way I see it, if you're gonna build a time machine into a car, why not do it with some style?"
NFS4 from scratch:
- 43 classic cars with dashboard
- 17 concept or unique cars
- 11 cars with agentMulder, Madman_nfs and Mr.X

EvoX

Wow you also love JDM😎🔥
I said hello, tough guy.

Spectre

Ah yes, I love JDM too, but I can't look at Mitsubishi anymore. It's just upsetting for what they have become now. Their glory days of sports cars like the GTO, FTO, Lancer Evolution and so on are now gone, just like Isuzu when they called it quits after the amazing Isuzu 4200R. Surprised you love the Honda Prelude.

But of course, I always have a big love of concept cars ever when I was younger and the reason why I love concept cars is because of the Ford GT90 and the Pontiac Rageous.

Herms

Quote from: Butch on Today at  8:01 AMSo in my small collection
I think that today's cars are designed for leasing, either long-term or with an option to purchase. The lease payments are converted into financial products that are resold on the market. It's like mobile phone contracts. Under these conditions, customers should not be attached to their cars.

Interesting that you mentioned mobile phone contracts as I've heard some manufacturers are making their ipad cars able to receive new features via software updates instead of physical facelifts. The touchscreens are used now because they're cheaper to produce than actual buttons and dials.

Cooya!

#609
Japanese cars can be pretty amazing... especially some 70's concept cars like these:



...But I don't want to bring some bad ideas here as I am totally fine with the Ferrari 512BB, Lotus Esprit Turbo, BMW M1 and Detomaso Pantera coming next ;)

And yes... I am an "old car guy" aswell! I just can't find anything amusing in nowadays cars. They all look somehow the same... totally bland. I don't care anymore. My personal rides are 36 and 28 years old now: