Max (BrabusAMG) from NFS Police H.Q. to whom I'm in close contact with brought me on an idea to update some older cars of mine like this '83 Ford LTD CV (old RCMP livery) for an update on my new CV base (old DodgeBoy bases I had reworked then by and by)
... there's also a TDPS LTD CV among others I had made, but this one, the RCMP LTD CV is one of my favourites for a possible recent upload .. funny thing is, that even with higher poly wheels it has a less polyload than my initial version had .. :D
3rd pic is that already mentioned Texan LTD I also did ages ago, but that has to be rewoked to my new LTD CV base still ..
If you don't know by now, this is what I'm speaking of (4th pic ..)
And then there's also my reworked version of the LTD CV's little brother, the fox-based LTD II (preview pic of a custom made 'Sheriff's vehicle' variant - in the background ..), also a well-known DodgeBoy car
Those are nice old 'square cars' if you like that kind of cars .. what do you think of it?
All updated versions will have 16-sided (or 'sectors' if you will..) custom made heavy-duty Steel rim wheels btw .. ;)
Nice shots, there is that a purple Dodge Duster? On bottom shot who made that one. :)
@_WiLL_: That's ADR's Plymouth Duster 340, slighty reworked by me long ago, but yeah, the Dodge Demon was very similar indeed and had been launched as a response on the very successfull Duster ;)
http://www.nfsaddons.com/nfshs/cars/Plymouth/532/
(http://www.nfsaddons.com/carpics/big/532.jpg)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plymouth_Duster
This is an excerpt from the German Wikipedia page since the English site doesn't display that, enumerating who else drove a Duster in TV shows, movies and so on .. ;)
Quote...
Chrysler nutzte den alten Plymouth Duster in der 2000er-Werbekampagne für den Hemi-Motor, wo einige Typen (einer von ihnen, gespielt von Jon Reep), einen Kerl in einem Dodge Ram mit den Worten „Yeah, it’s got a hemi!“ anmachen. Der Typ â€" wenn auch nicht das Auto â€" tauchte 2006 wieder in den Werbefilmen von Dr. Z auf.
Das in der Sitcom Eine schrecklich nette Familie ('Married... with Children' edit) als „Dodge“ bezeichnete Familienauto ist tatsächlich ein Plymouth Duster.
Ein Plymouth Duster (Baujahr 1973 oder 1974) taucht auch im Film Happy Gilmore auf, wo er von Adam Sandler gefahren wird.
Fred O’Bannion (Ben Affleck) fährt einen 1973er oder 1974er Duster im Film Confusion â€" Sommer der Ausgeflippten.
Todd Ianuzzi fährt einen 1973er Duster in Beavis and Butt-Head
Die Band The Cars verwendet einen Duster 340 für das Cover ihres Albums Heartbeat City.
Ein B5-blauer 1973er Plymouth Duster ist der Star des Horrorfilms Bloody 27.
Chase Forbes besitzt und fährt einen 1973er Duster.
Nick Principe in der Rolle des John Falcon fährt im Actionfilm American Muscle (2014) einen gelben 73er Duster.
Homer Simpson (Die Simpsons) fährt in einer Episode einen Duster, was man anhand der Rücklichter erkennen kann.
Im Film Edward mit den Scherenhänden wird mehrmals ein gelber 73/74er Duster gefahren.
In der Serie Two and a Half Men (S3E18) wird erwähnt, dass Alans Freundin Kandi einen Duster fährt.
In der Serie Alf fährt Trevor Ochmonek, Nachbar der Familie Tanner, einen Duster.
In Stephen Kings Roman Christine fährt Arnies Freund Dennis einen 1975er Plymouth Duster. Im Film ist dies ein 1968er Dodge Charger...
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Quote from: FranknFurter on Dec 11, 2016, 10:04 AM
Max (BrabusAMG) from NFS Police H.Q. to whom I'm in close contact with brought me on an idea to update some older cars of mine like this '83 Ford LTD CV (old RCMP livery) for an update on my new CV base (old DodgeBoy bases I had reworked then by and by)
... there's also a TDPS LTD CV among others I had made, but this one, the RCMP LTD CV is one of my favourites for a possible recent upload .. funny thing is, that even with higher poly wheels it has a less polyload than my initial version had .. :D
3rd pic is that already mentioned Texan LTD I also did ages ago, but that has to be rewoked to my new LTD CV base still ..
If you don't know by now, this is what I'm speaking of (4th pic ..)
And then there's also my reworked version of the LTD CV's little brother, the fox-based LTD II (preview pic of a custom made 'Sheriff's vehicle' variant - in the background ..), also a well-known DodgeBoy car
Those are nice old 'square cars' if you like that kind of cars .. what do you think of it?
All updated versions will have 16-sided (or 'sectors' if you will..) custom made heavy-duty Steel rim wheels btw .. ;)
Nice, Did Max give you his Dominion lights and lightbar too or did you make those by modding existing parts from other cars?
Thanks Paul,
I looked for pictures from Internet depicting Canadian copcars with those Dominion lightbars and the one on that '90s Ford base was the closest I could find, I tried to model it after that with alley lights and stuff .. ^-^
The speaker is from my LAPD Fury (which is soon to come as soon as I have reworked all the Fury cruisers to the updated Fury base what may happen within yet even this century ::), but the speaker on the Dominion is a bit smaller it seems so I downscaled it.
I also made a reworked lightbar once for the Sureté du Québec Caravelle by VooDooOperator but I didn't know then that those Canadian lightbars are different from U.S. ones .. :o
Speaking of the Fury, how would you like a completely different car that, as far as I know hasn't been made yet (does it?), the '78 Nevada HP Fury slicktop cruiser .. just an idea since the Fury has become so well like I never thought it would .. :)
haha, got a nice screenshot here with Max' brand new RCMP Mustang side by side the '83 RCMP LTD .. :D
Cool pics Frank an thanks, for telling me more about the Plymouth Duster, an nice in game Cop cars.
Nevada Highway Patrol fury would be nice :). You know it was so STUPID of Chrysler to end Plymouth. I very well believe had things gone just a bit diffrent in history we might be calling what is now a Dodge Charger the Gran Fury or Diplomat, I do think it likely would have had the same Charger design and all but diffrent name had these names carried over longer.
Thanks Paul .. the NVHP Fury is something that is as said already breeding a bit longer in my mind ... say, were you upset if I also did a new version of a 'Sûreté du Québec' Fury ...?
(http://policecanada.ca/policeca/qc/sq/sqoldcolor/SQoldcolor001.jpg)
It is also such a pretty, and I'm planning to do it with a completely new and scratch made Dietz 7-11 central red beacon light with also a somewhat lowpoly interior and 'rotating light' dummies illusion .... :D
I only wish I had an idea of the correct lighting scheme of those smaller outer flashing beacons ... were they changing 'inner-to-outer' or just 'left-to-right' .... :-\
What pattern did you use on your '78 Plymouth SdQ?
Quote from: FranknFurter on Dec 14, 2016, 11:48 AM
Thanks Paul .. the NVHP Fury is something that is as said already breeding a bit longer in my mind ... say, were you upset if I also did a new version of a 'Sûreté du Québec' Fury ...?
(http://policecanada.ca/policeca/qc/sq/sqoldcolor/SQoldcolor001.jpg)
It is also such a pretty, and I'm planning to do it with a completely new and scratch made Dietz 7-11 central red beacon light with also a somewhat lowpoly interior and 'rotating light' dummies illusion .... :D
I only wish I had an idea of the correct lighting scheme of those smaller outer flashing beacons ... were they changing 'inner-to-outer' or just 'left-to-right' .... :-\
What pattern did you use on your '78 Plymouth SdQ?
No I don't mind, Gohead and make it, I used a VERY fast pattern on the small strobe lights as there is as of yet NO way to accurately strobe lights in the game..Only make simulated rotating lights, For accurate strobes you'd need a double flash left double flash right and I see no way to yet..Maybe you'll find it? :). Looking again at that pic, I noticed something I left off mine, Probably a good thing too though, Notice the car is not only eqquiped with the strobes but also small lolipop flashers :O. Merde! The Surete has a fettish for lights it seems..They just can't get enough :P. Big gumball in the center, 2 small strobes on each side of it,and lolipop lights mounted hap hazard half on the left and half on the right :P. XD.Wow, I bet the ran through batteries quick with this setup and blew fuses left and right too :O. No way we can light every light on this bar in the game.
I've found a way to somehow simulate flashers already ... I use '1er' values as it can also be seen on some Whelen Edges I've modified, I also use it with modern front LED flashers and such .. it's an alternating pattern with for example 'SBYO110' and 'SRYO111' .. here is an example of it, it is a modified traffic 'Hometown PD' Charger ... using 2er values on the lightbar and 1er values for the frontal flashers ... works at least on my machine .. ^-^
Btw can I use your 7-11 as a base perhaps? It's somehow easier than starting from zero and generating cylinders and stuff from very beginning, modifiying them and such and I still got so much work to do, damn .. but it was ok for me if not .. :)
So you did some different, light flasks,with this ride Frank? I just seen, you Replied,more to me on your, Black an White, cars thread so that helped, now I can't get your files off my phone,weather, here is just to Bad to go anyplace, so I may have go Library to DL,, your cars Hassels Bro.."
My dang Cell phone, isn't allowing, me to get your zip files, off so I can install your Mods,:( Damn,phone I got, says I don't have Permission, its WinZip for Android, to move my Internal files from, SD card, to put them, on my External SD card so I can look at your works it won't let me.. I can't find, any So called, Permissions, tab to allow me to get these zip files.. it's always, something now days ( what program can App, I use to get your car files... I can't afford Isp'"' at my place.. now days.
Try Answer me on this Frank Cya. neat car.,,
Quote from: FranknFurter on Dec 14, 2016, 1:05 PM
I've found a way to somehow simulate flashers already ... I use '1er' values as it can also be seen on some Whelen Edges I've modified, I also use it with modern front LED flashers and such .. it's an alternating pattern with for example 'SBYO110' and 'SRYO111' .. here is an example of it, it is a modified traffic 'Hometown PD' Charger ... using 2er values on the lightbar and 1er values for the frontal flashers ... works at least on my machine .. ^-^
Btw can I use your 7-11 as a base perhaps? It's somehow easier than starting from zero and generating cylinders and stuff from very beginning, modifiying them and such and I still got so much work to do, damn .. but it was ok for me if not .. :)
Sure, As for the 7-11 I used a steady but somewhat reasonable speed on it to simulate a slow rotator as these lights turned very slow, I think the timer is set to 6 if I'm not mistaken, I'll check the car when I get home and give you complete light setup on it. I'll also have a look at that Charger when I get home..Looks nice. From Nils's base I assume.
I also just realized something, Looking closer at that pic, The lolipop lights are NOT mounted to the Fury, That's another police car parked beside it :P. Looks to be about a 1976 Chevy Nova which there is a great base by a fellow on NFS Cars we can use to make that car as well by stretching the body and making it a 4 door, He calls the car Chuckie by the way. Anyhow I'd say you might as well download the car too as you'll need the TGA to make one and I have that exact decal on the doors as well. I made it by modifying the current emblem to that scheme and inverting the colors on it to match that.
Anyways.Frank, im at Library an Just Nabbed, your Fury Car,an Cop & Other, So now i can take it Home!
Some day i Get Rich? an Have ISP at Home..? So ah, you have a Well day Man :)
.. just some nice winter impressions so close to christmas .. although it is grey skied and raining here in Germany ... :(
Quote from: FranknFurter on Dec 22, 2016, 7:06 AM
.. just some nice winter impressions so close to christmas .. although it is grey skied and raining here in Germany ... :(
RCMP LTD is great but I don't think they had spotlights mounted to the windshield on those, Seems in Canada windshield mounted spotlights is rare, They'd rather have them inside the lightbars or just go with them mounted to the side on the older Dominion and FederalSignal Visibar gumball lightbars. I only saw windshield mounted spotlights on some city police cars from Quebec.
Also on the Surete Du Quebec Caravelle, They was using 4 bulb versions of the Dominion, Max is some day going to rework our Diplomat/Caravelle/GranFury base to give it needed sculpted body lines, When he does I might take a stab at doing more Canada cars and also rework my Illinois State Police Diplomats to better :).
Of course you're absolutely right Paul, no need to mention that and perhaps you're the only one to have noticed that detail, but since this is also the base for further 80's LTDs I kept that light so I wouldn't have to reimport it for e.g. the 1985 TDPS LTD .. will then of course be deleted when I upload the car .. ^-^
I only have these very vague pictures of it but I made that car already years ago, I am now reworking it to my new '83 LTD base .. which will then be a part of a Texan replacement car pack like the RCMP will be alike ..
This pic shows of course the wrong car but very well the contemporary scheme and setup I am going to use on the car ..
(http://www.specialservicemustang.net/DPS/DPSMustang.com/SIKES81.jpg)
.. and below the only actual picture I have of it .. a very small one and also probably taken from a TV Show so of a rather low quality ..
The TDPS 90's SSP Mustang is yet ready for service for a long time btw ..
Last pic is a very old screenshot showing the 85TX in its outdated state, has to be reworked as said to the new '83 LTD base still ...
Well .. finished the TDPS LTD today ... it is now updated to the new LTD base :)
... and also the RCMP '84 LTD experienced some final alterations like authentic dark rims .. and the finally deleted searchlight ... ;)
Ford Rocks!! ;) Nice works,Resting now Pal ttul'
Well Frank I'm doing more Surete Du Quebec cars, Some from the late 1980's- to 1990's when they just came out with the new stripe design, currently done is the 1990 Caprice. I used you Dominion lightbar but I noticed the siren Surete used was bigger than the R.C.M.P. one so I made it a bit bigger in CarCad, I also used your cop from the 1977 Plymouth Fury but altered him some (since Surete Du Quebec don't have badges except on their hats I took the badge off him and modified his shoulder patches too, Removing the right one since they only have a patch on the left I think..May be wrong but easy to add another if I am :P).
(http://i.imgur.com/UV1fqcr.png)
(http://i.imgur.com/nsn7Jqc.png)
(http://i.imgur.com/7f9ESDW.png)
Hi there Paul Really liking this Cop mod, Looking Sweet Setup light bars! An nice old Car to is it a Chevy,Buick, type, kinda beat here have a good one sure pin stripes nice :)
Quote from: _WiLL_ on Dec 25, 2016, 3:21 PM
Hi there Paul Really liking this Cop mod, Looking Sweet Setup light bars! An nice old Car to is it a Chevy,Buick, type, kinda beat here have a good one sure pin stripes nice :)
1990 Chevy Caprice, Next one will be a 1996 Caprice from the UNITÉ D' URGENCE (Emergency Unit) and I think I'm gonna make my own unit since I didn't see none like this for reality UNITÉ D'PURSUIT (Pursuit Unit) I'll do some of the CrownVics of that too since I think they was faster than the Chevy Caprice.
I had a feeling it was the Caprice wasn't all sure: ) here is before an After shots of New Land snow I did all along the New,Hill road. I think it looks much better, now! It was 3 hours, to do,an the track is still stable. I'm happy.
Now if the pics, attach.
=D ^-^ Nice, I'll definatly have to give the 1996 Caprice a workout on that once done, I'm sure he'll be living up to his "emergency unit" name as likely alot of the racers will crash on that thing :P.
(http://i.imgur.com/U8iB3ge.png)
Yeah Daa wheels man.. . That's way up north Cops rite?. An so is ah, my Canada track make, u know trying to have it all come out better.in those spots,.. u know. Resting peace to all of you Editors.. cause I know too: ]
Quote from: _WiLL_ on Dec 26, 2016, 1:31 PM
Yeah Daa wheels man.. . That's way up north Cops rite?. An so is ah, my Canada track make, u know trying to have it all come out better.in those spots,.. u know. Resting peace to all of you Editors.. cause I know too: ]
Working on my own special Pursuit Unit Division now, fictional but based on the real Emergency Unit Division, Diffrence is my Pursuit Unit division will all have cages, far as I've saw the Sûreté Du Québec don't use cages in their vehicles (for what ever reasons) but I decided to add them as my division is fictional anyhow so it don't matter :P.
(http://i.imgur.com/mOmXyHt.png)
Hey pal yes, Rollcages? Putting them in the car, or just that Screen back seat thing they use. Paul Listen, to me k, Were you see this, car like way up-Up North Canada, like Ontario? is there, I never been up there, ever so am I close? Be nice.,, but you are : )) an so I had an Audio problem, I had fix on pc tonight, I just like using , my head phones, I have Close by neighbors, an they don't need yo hear,, all my Racket! Fun!)) But my Audio still isn't putting out my Sound Rite(, But did before last week.., says it coming out the back,of pc in propertys, but I needs go on, in front pc, the speakers,an is Not. So is my Boggle,hassle with it. I don't like today. So I'm using just head phone now Jack. Settings is messed, up on this. On board sound dude, try let me know more,about you said Fictional, more.. ok I get it wasn't sure sorry, but maybe you get some bad guys,in back car like, Food stamp, an Income, Stealers, from the "white hous.e, that want mess up,, my life with all there Bufget cuts am we can't feed are selfs, very good,.they need to be in back that car, Snake Governers yah... Nite bud peace just was Example.. story I wish I could do, on Summit/Canada track :p
Quote from: _WiLL_ on Dec 26, 2016, 5:04 PM
Hey pal yes, Rollcages? Putting them in the car, or just that Screen back seat thing they use. Paul Listen, to me k, Were you see this, car like way up-Up North Canada, like Ontario? is there, I never been up there, ever so am I close? Be nice.,, but you are : )) an so I had an Audio problem, I had fix on pc tonight, I just like using , my head phones, I have Close by neighbors, an they don't need yo hear,, all my Racket! Fun!)) But my Audio still isn't putting out my Sound Rite(, But did before last week.., says it coming out the back,of pc in propertys, but I needs go on, in front pc, the speakers,an is Not. So is my Boggle,hassle with it. I don't like today. So I'm using just head phone now Jack. Settings is messed, up on this. On board sound dude, try let me know more,about you said Fictional, more.. ok I get it wasn't sure sorry, but maybe you get some bad guys,in back car like, Food stamp, an Income, Stealers, from the "white hous.e, that want mess up,, my life with all there Bufget cuts am we can't feed are selfs, very good,.they need to be in back that car, Snake Governers yah... Nite bud peace just was Example.. story I wish I could do, on Summit/Canada track :p
I mean the regular cage/fence in police cars, Cars are of Sûreté Du Québec (Quebec Provincial Police) I did them because our site is severely lacking in this agency while others seem to have alot of police vehicles up, So I'm building up the Sûreté Du Québec section :). I have ONLY saw their cars on the internet, Never having been to Canada, As for the Unite' D`Pursuit (Pursuit Unit Division), I created it inspired by the actual Emergency Unit Division Unite' D`Urgence, 2 of the cars are now up at NFS Police H.Q. if you'd like to play with them, As for your new track, What does it replace? Kindiak Park or Rocky Pass as these 2 are in Canada? I'll try it out once you post it up.
See I just Learned more about the real cops, nice looking Cars,an I see what you mean more Paul np: )
An, but I don't understand s 100% yet, ok building up these better Looking cars would be Great you an Frank.
https://www.google.com/search?site=&source=hp&ei=qMxhWLTyGaumjwTqsZGACQ&q=surete+du+quebec+police&oq=S%C3%BBret%C3%A9+Du+Qu%C3%A9bec+pol&gs_l=mobile-gws-hp.1.0.0i22i30k1l5.1777.13212.0.23800.6.6.0.0.0.0.536.1970.3-3j1j1.5.0....0...1.1j2.64.mobile-gws-hp..1.5.1967.0..0j0i19k1j0i22i30i19k1.Ks6UTB9PoXU
An my Tracks all ready up, its on the Front page list. But I been trying to improve it more, I don't have a Successful, FIle upload place any more, may be I need get ah, a drop Box, thing) again like soon. Btw, were you from, now Paul the state's here, or Germany np)
You don't have Qoute me always k
It's the Summit/Canada. Track replaces)
Edit again, Buddy, I'm done making points now, was all good. But don't you know anything, about my Audio problems, how fix it? To make my Speakers work Normally. Cya PaulSpain
I like Car Shading off see the Great tires he did detail) my new road Entrance looks like this now, Smoothed it out in spots it needed an New side banks,trees, no holes heh
Hello folks, back on track .. somehow .. after some Christmas debaucheries ^-^
Dang you folks were such diligent these days other than me just eating and being lazy ::)
First of all, your Chevys look really great Paul! .. btw wasn't necessary to mention me in your upload description pal, this is self-evident that you folks can use my stuff for any purposes =D
WiLL, your track looks great but allow me a question pal, are you still improving the track or is the uploaded one somewhat 'final' since I want to download it asap .. ^-^
.. to some concerns of my own .. I'm facing some problems on another Fury ... the '78 Nevada HP, I cannot find a usable rendition of that historic door decal with that old arched lettering, tried to do that by myself with rather moderate success .. :-\
That arched lettering is somewhat hard to do and for my taste it still looks to 'comic-like' :(
.. based it on the Monaco texture for a start, so no need to mention that the rest of it isn't yet correct .. ok Paul? ;)
Quote from: FranknFurter on Dec 26, 2016, 7:51 PM
First of all, your Chevys look really great Paul! .. btw wasn't necessary to mention me in your upload description pal, this is self-evident that you folks can use my stuff for any purposes =D
It is the policy of NFS Police H.Q. to credit ALL sources we obtain parts,vehicles,and textures from ;) But if you wish to remain anonymous for what ever reason I can remove you from the credits, I also have to add Nils to them as I forgot the 1991-1996 Caprice was made using his original car ::) :o which was then edited heavily by CVPI 19. I also have to add DodgeBoy as the 1986-1990 Caprices was made using his original car and edited by CVPI 19, So I have to update the READ.MEs and credits on the post.
Hi Frank glad your back, cause your a Cool Cat, I need some Zzz's now, No my tracks, not all Final yet, cause I just got back here 2 weeks ago an I need to get a, online DropBix, tomorrow, an I can link you the Better one then, I just made that new road, few days ago, an if you test it out you'll get used to it, it only works, after the Top Hill,Shortcut, an then take the longer new road, from down the hill, past Ski House, so thanks, Sorry about your Door badge issue: ( I never learned that Tag editing on cars I know it's Ruff an cool Gnight. Here Friend =D. ^-^
.. downloaded your current track now, it is sooo darn cool pal also the junction track and all the parallel roads!
... blinking 'offline' traffic lights in town .. a nice detail that emphasizes the 'deserted' impression of it even some more than those really cool snowdrifts and swirls already do ^-^ .. and even more cool at night ... :D
.. really great track and excellent work pal!
@Paul: no .. you don't necessarily need to remove me from the credits but I think my real name is not useful since nobody would know who is meant by that, better if you'd just just my usual nickname 'FranknFurter' since this is also my Police H.Q. nick ;)
Quote from: FranknFurter on Dec 26, 2016, 9:22 PM
@Paul: no .. you don't necessarily need to remove me from the credits but I think my real name is not useful since nobody would know who is meant by that, better if you'd just just my usual nickname 'FranknFurter' since this is also my Police H.Q. nick ;)
Oh, Ok..Yeah I see what you mean now, CVPI19 was the same way back when I used to use his actual name.
Will is this the track you're showing? I'll have to try it or I might wait til your fine tuning of it is done first ;).
http://www.nfsaddons.com/nfshs/tracks/407/
@Paul: Thanks for altering my name to nick in your credits pal .. btw what was it today Police H.Q. seemed to be unavailable or offline all day? dang ..
Paul you have to try it, it is really cool .. WiLL will fine tune it a bit still I guess but it the current one is more than worth downloading it ... ^-^
@WiLL: this a really cool track and I mean it .. the person you already mentioned concerning track editing experiences may at first glance have more skills but you're on a good way .. keep it up just like that pal!
Quote from: FranknFurter on Dec 27, 2016, 10:29 AM
@Paul: Thanks for altering my name to nick in your credits pal .. btw what was it today Police H.Q. seemed to be unavailable or offline all day? dang ..
Paul you have to try it, it is really cool .. WiLL will fine tune it a bit still I guess but it the current one is more than worth downloading it ... ^-^
I only got to edit the credits and original file (as I also had to edit the READ.ME ) a few minutes ago, We was offline for some stupid reason, Yahoo screws with us alot but the boss wants to stick with them vs going to a free site builder like we started with cause they offer free antivirus screening, But mostly anyone can check downloaded files with Advanced System Care or Malware Bytes,Avast,etc. But oh well, We're with Yahoo til the end I guess XD.
.. made some small progress today with the NVHP Fury ... blurred the arched lettering and added a gradient lighting to it .. hope it looks OK for you folks .. will then continue to remap the rest of the body to that current colour scheme .. that's it for today ...
Hi hey, Thanks! !! Much Frank for all that, it makes, me want keep going!.!. Instead of the,,Negative.. words, I did more Smoothing on the S'' turn hill this am, lowered it down sum, an that Jump after that area, I'm thinking of other things, to do on it.. :D an ah, Stormy in are town today burr, so see problem is if I try to copy an paste new parts, to make Track just wants, to error out Bs'' pal.
So I'm not doing that no longer, but making new polys an all is doing fine, I have backed up all I got done, today an other day, also I think I made the Sky's, look better in The Ini'' files, did last night day race was to bright, on no weather, little tone down.
Hi PaulSpain, Keep up your Great works too! An Frank ttul: )) :) 8)
.. made some further progress with the NVHP slicktop Fury today - as not to say I finished it so far .. kinda .. first a ZModeler desktop pic and also ingame screenshots ..
Not at all perfect I'm afraid but at least recognizable as the car that it should depict .. :-\
Last pic just a reminder of what the real car looks like ..
That Last Pic sure Looks about Rite, Driver Looks,Mad with Additude? ??? or Hands up? ;)
So um.This is more like a SlipTop Unit Frank? But i Like that Look tho- More Diffrent, in a Sleek way. Sure.
Im Trying not to be so Unhappy,about NO-ISP-@ HOME Now days, But i am. Just Chilling out, Sometimes we can't change things make it better, so you all have a
better week Out there...
I just wan t my project to ever Turn out, more if I ever have the Time to do it,.. Rite
With Chores an Trying to Live: P
@FranknFurter: I don't really like the black tires on the cars.Is it possible to give them a more grey texture?
Quote from: noise on Dec 28, 2016, 10:20 AM
@FranknFurter: I don't really like the black tires on the cars.Is it possible to give them a more grey texture?
I had the same issue with CVPI19's Caprices, Tires too dark, Just take a photo editor and find what they're textured to on the TGA and paint that a lighter color, It's what I did on the SDQ cars.
Yeah, they look Dark, I seen in some pics ;) wish they get lighter, but sure is Nice looking Job on the Red one seeing a Replay now: )
np so far for me to brighten it up the tires colour a bit, but respect another issue: please compare both pics showing the trunk lettering of the real NV Fury and the ZModeler pic, it shows that the 'Highway Patrol' lettering is set higher compared to the CHP, more on the edge of the trunk: problem is that the base car mesh isn't as 'smooth' as the real car is at the trunk's edge.
I can either smoothen the trunk edge what means I'd have to update ALL Fury models again or you consider the current mapping state 'ok' as it is :-\
.. btw the tires aren't as dark as you might have felt it but NFS loses colour precision/depth as well as contrast when displaying cars ingame even in 32-bit mode :( .. on the contrary, I gave the tires a somewhat 'lively' colour gradient by using a mapping trick without needing an additional tire sidewall texture ;) (see last detail pic)
best if you see yourself .. attached the current state car.zip file for testing .. any comments are welcome :)
Let me point this out still ... this a completely new texture and livery, as far as I know it hasn't been done before and I had to make for example that arched lettering and colour scheme all by myself, it could not be copied or pasted into and then modified from somewhere else to find pictures what might have been somewhat easier .. so please forgive if it isn't as perfect (metallic paint can also not be displayed in HS -other than in HP2 by using alpha channel- so I tried to make that by a stepped colour gradient) as it could be but I did the best I could -what seemingly isn't good enough though- on that beautiful old paint scheme ;)
.. folks here's an issue that still makes me wonder concerning the rear internal flasher(s) .. on later slicktop cars of the CHP they used to have three internal lights, red, orange and a single blue one on the opposite side of the red and orange one, I have seen videos of that pattern (80'/90's slicktop Ford CV CHP) where red is a steady rear stop light corresponding to that single red frontal facing stop light while the orange and the blue were alternating/flashing (wig wag), but I'm uncertain about older cars like for example the '69 Polara with only two internal lights (like here on the Nevada Fury) with just the red and the orange one next to it. Where both then alternating/flashing or was the red one always being a steady 'stop' light and orange ('traffic warning'?) was solely flashing? :o
HELP!
btw ... is that toning better with the tires? ... but have a look then at the ingame screenie .. even with brightened up tire textures (tire texture gamma value now at an increased 1.25) it wouldn't show up much brighter ... ok this a shot taken on a rather dark part of the track (Redrock Ridge Enhanced btw) ...
Just looked at the test.zip.
The lettering on the trunk (highway patrol) looks o.k. by me, no need to smoothen the trunk's edge.
The wheels have improved. Still I prefer a better texture.I believe there is no space left in the .tga to add one.
Look at the Smokey & Bandits TransAm, the lettering/numbers on the sides give the necessary contrast.
Don't get me wrong I really like your work, keep it up.
thanks noise for your feedback ... I do apprechiate that alot :)
I attached an altered car.viv with the brightened up tire as well as colour corrected rim textures ... please test it, it also has an altered lighting scheme since Paul gave me some useful information ;)
That's quick work. thnx both.
Looks better indeed.I also changed graphic settings ''in game'' (higher gamma correction).I'm happy now.
I admire your energy to work on so much cars in so little time.Baardk made a lot of nice American cars.What are your future plans?
I have the another Fury on my schedule, the 'Calgary City Police' on a suggestion by Max (BrabusAMG) with a large 'double Dietz' lightbar which will then be also a base to some southern States '76 Furys (with different headlights though of course) like in the 'Bandit' movie ..
Got some LTD II foxbased Mustangs still .. an undercover reworked base LTD II as well a WASP LTD II with new textures and lighting scheme and a generic 'Sheriff' LTD II with a classic Twinsonic lightbar as a traffic pursuit replacement.
And, if your interested still, also a very nice old 'square' car, DodgeBoy's 80's Chevy Impala as an undercover cop vehicle with some nice details added and reworked ... ^-^
Hi there, Mr.Frank :D yup...
Can't Wait to see the Newer Light Bar('s)
when you have the Test out again, I'm all
Patient about this :o ;) Thanks for your Help-
Today was pretty, Awesome!! an I still have to Drive-
Home 4 blocks away. ::) :P
Hey, Have a Well Week an HAPPY NEW YEAR!!
This,
Saturday Night, Be safe an Smart an all That! :D 8) =D
Yes Looking Foward to the Traffic/Pursuit/Ver. Much :}
Impressive work, I have to say.
If anything can wake me up from my slumber, it's a nice fleet of classic patrol cars for the best NFS game ever. And these updated Plymouths, as well as the Monaco, and the LTDs sure brings back lot of memories.
Keep it up.
... nice to hear, Dark One .. and thanks :)
@WiLL: np pal ur welcome .. but don't tell Annie ..1k ;)
.. being well aware that there's folks like me that don't necessarily like slicktops I made an additional version with a classic Twinsonic lightbar from prototype picture ...
btw has no-one really noticed my mistake on the searchlights before? they're chrome .. not black -LOL
Updt.: Nevada car is uploaded now ..
https://www.youtube.com/v/ri786Rt2KwM
Cheers
Frank
Have to quote myself here .. :-[
QuoteI have the another Fury on my schedule, the 'Calgary City Police' on a suggestion by Max (BrabusAMG) with a large 'double Dietz' lightbar which will then be also a base to some southern States '76 Furys (with different headlights though of course) like in the 'Bandit' movie ..
Forgot to mention that there is also the NYPD Fury to do still ... well .. the following pic shows a '75 Fury but I love that NYPD Signal Stat lightbar setup ... =D
(http://images52.fotki.com/v1639/photos/4/42477/4775613/RMP25363-vi.jpg)
(http://images15.fotki.com/v1631/photos/4/42477/3623098/DSC06350-vi.jpg)
You wouldn't believe it ... look at this folks, found it coincidentally .. must be in Northern Germany or at least somewhere else in rural Middle Europe .. ^-^ :police:
https://youtube.com/v/8GbpuUpokgY
Dang .. when I look at all that lighting .. gives me headaches in advance .. ???
Cool the NYPD Fury :)
Looking good.
2 Rotators, 4 flashers and head/rearlights; about 14 dummies. Seems possible i guess.
But i know you have higher standards regarding lightbars, than me :D
... my old Baardk based '77 NYPD Fury (pic: 'PPLN' .. old) only had the lightbar dummies w/o rear and front flashers but alternating wig-waging foglights (plus headlights) ... but that was already twelve dummies (w/o taillights/reverse gear lights) .. seems my lighting scheme abilities have come towards a 'physical' end now ... but let's see .. -LOL
for anyone who's interested .. there's the old file attached ... if you promise not to shout out laughing, it is more than ten years old now ... ::)
.. but actually, not even as bad as I thought is was (last pic) except for some details and the overall width still .. LOL
Dang I love pictures like these .. (the b/w is actually taken from 'Law and Order' TV series intro) ... they're giving me a ..
https://www.youtube.com/v/F5LkGKJDc3Q
.. although I've never been there in my life .. ^-^
Have a Happy New Year today folks! .. and get there safe 'n sound k?
Lovely NYPD cruiser. And I won't really laugh, as ten years ago I was on the same boat, and that car looks amazing for something made for two decades old game. =D
Also interesting video. In Germany red lightbar means nothing, but somebody with police car replica going code3 through German countryside... I can actually imagine the locals rushing to see what's going on.
At all (my mind said: this would be like "Need For Speed Rivals 1970“)
Lmao
... making surprisingly fast progress on the NYPD Fury ... still the unit number (rear sides and roof) and the lightbar to do ... that should be it .. :o
No Way frank,thats all have to do..? =D
COOL so this is what the Blues Bro's Used in there, Movie Frank?
I Really Like this one,an then Library wont be open i think?? :-X ???
Cya Next Year Frank my Plane is Leaving now, with a few Gorilla's ;) 8)
Happy New Year folks .. ^-^
N.Y. (same initials like 'New Year' LOL) Fury is finished, how do you like it? see bottommost attached pics .. :police:
Has the highest polyload of all so far done Furys .. 4025 polies/682kB mesh because of the sophisticated lightbar and rear internal flashers .. good thing is that 'Empire' track wouldn't crash on whatever car you use ;)
... attached also the finalized car (Car.test.zip) for testing again ... has serial #35
and btw @WiLL, no the car wasn't at all used in Blues Brothers movie since the movie played in Illinois and not in New York but it was used alot in 'Ghostbusters' movie though and its succesor the Gran Fury/Diplomat, loved that movie in my youth .. :D
(http://pics.imcdb.org/0is341/ghostbusters248wg0.6104.jpg)
(http://www.imcdb.org/i024455.jpg)
(http://pics.imcdb.org/0is256/ghostbusters2107wz1.2584.jpg)
...
.. btw the historic Tennessee scheme looks also nice and somewhat decent on the Fury, what do you think?
(https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/564x/b8/aa/34/b8aa34a4f4a7cb11d58f1822a3b2ef03.jpg)
would be easy to do with the current NYPD/NVHP scheme since that stripe is already remapped like that ..
North Carolina SP scheme also makes a very elegant paint scheme with the Fury .. :D
... pic of a restored historic car:
(https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/originals/0e/de/58/0ede58fb8e7075707faf52807f77980e.jpg)
.. and seemingly a contemporay pic:
(http://images51.fotki.com/v1638/photos/4/42477/245217/1NCHP1978-vi.jpg)
Cheers
Frank
(https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/564x/b8/aa/34/b8aa34a4f4a7cb11d58f1822a3b2ef03.jpg)
Frank I have just what you need to make that car, Download this car and get the decals from it all but the 1979 (as they put that on there I guess to show it was a 1979 Chrysler Newport LOL) It's up on NFS Police H.Q., One of the older cars I did using Taigo's 1979 Dodge St. Regis, I chop shop modded it with parts here-there to make a 1979 Chrysler Newport and 1980-1981 Plymouth Gran Fury as well.
thx for that hint Paul, will certainly have a look! ^-^
.. can you -coincidentally- identify the model and/or type name of that large single beacon used on the NCSP car? It isn't a Dietz as for sure or is it? ... that factory sign looks like as if it was a 'Signal Stat' :police:
Once again impressive work on the car! Kinda wish Baardk didn't make it with that tiny back window, but beggars can't be choosers.
And Tennessee indeed had interesting paint scheme even back in the day.
thx Dark One .. yes the back window is indeed small .. although I already enlarged it a bit on the reworked base car :-\
Yeah TENNESSEE .. afraid we might need then another Hometown variant 'Lynchburg' featuring a famous Whiskey brewery =D
(https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/originals/37/a4/9e/37a49e1c1c9f1400b8e96ee4ce4c0741.jpg)
... or can we just adapt the 'Dolphin Valley' wine cellar for that? ^-^
(http://www.douglasmagazine.com/catswearingmonocles/wp-content/uploads/2016/01/whisky.jpg)
Quote from: FranknFurter on Jan 01, 2017, 9:00 PM
thx for that hint Paul, will certainly have a look! ^-^
.. can you -coincidentally- identify the model and/or type name of that large single beacon used on the NCSP car? It isn't a Dietz as for sure or is it? ... that factory sign looks like as if it was a 'Signal Stat' :police:
The North Carolina State Trooper car has a FederalSignal PA light, Only gumball light that has the siren built into the base, It came in 4 bulb only models. I have the light as well as a 1979 Cherysler Newport of the NCHP I never released just yet I can send you.
so .. if there are no contradictions I will then send that 'New York .. New Year' NYPD Fury to Remko for an upload .. should perhaps alter the unit's number to '2017' still :police:
.. one more question folks .. I had also made a less polycostly variant of the NYPD Fury those days with an Aerodynic lightbar which also did exist in real like that .. should I also make a that upon the new Fury base or do you think us folks don't need that lower poly version? It is not much of an effort to do for me, just asking ... (see attached ZModeler pic of the old version ..)
... would be a nice task altering that old Aerodynic with transparency and some interior .. well .. but then again .. it wouldn't be a 'lowpoly' variant any longer -LOL
and thx alot again Paul, should be a CJ184 beacon on the NC cruiser, right? .. found out that lately after investigating dozens of pictures .. :o
the Tennessee scheme is attractive as hell but also doing that NC car with that large single beacon ... well ... maybe I should start a poll lately of which car to do as next .. ^-^
Quote from: FranknFurter on Jan 02, 2017, 10:36 AM
so .. if there are no contradictions I will then send that 'New York .. New Year' NYPD Fury to Remko for an upload .. should perhaps alter the unit's number to '2017' still :police:
.. one more question folks .. I had also made a less polycostly variant of the NYPD Fury those days with an Aerodynic lightbar which also did exist in real like that .. should I also make a that upon the new Fury base or do you think us folks don't need that lower poly version? It is not much of an effort to do for me, just asking ... (see attached ZModeler pic of the old version ..)
... would be a nice task altering that old Aerodynic with transparency and some interior .. well .. but then again .. it wouldn't be a 'lowpoly' variant any longer -LOL
and thx alot again Paul, should be a CJ184 beacon on the NC cruiser, right? .. found out that lately after investigating dozens of pictures .. :o
the Tennessee scheme is attractive as hell but also doing that NC car with that large single beacon ... well ... maybe I should start a poll lately of which car to do as next .. ^-^
Go for it :). I'd love to test out your AeroDynic :D.
Hi Frank, yes make a Poll with all the Diffrent, Light Bar you may have :) All. Know is like, I don't like them, Real Thin, ones, I seen someone put on a Pursuit car before, but I'm not sure about the name of them.
I like the one on the NY tho... , 8)
Quote from: _WiLL_ on Jan 02, 2017, 4:09 PM
Hi Frank, yes make a Poll with all the Diffrent, Light Bar you may have :) All. Know is like, I don't like them, Real Thin, ones, I seen someone put on a Pursuit car before, but I'm not sure about the name of them.
I like the one on the NY tho... , 8)
If you're talking about the tube shaped ones the thin one is JetSonic, AeroDynics are not thin, Remember Dukes Of Hazzard and the Hazzard county Sheriff cars on that? They had AeroDynic lightbars.
... or perhaps the FedSig JetStream, that's the one w/o a centre peaker.. ?
(http://up.autotitre.com/c8e05e49bf.jpg)
Was also being mounted to the NYPD Mustang GT ..
(http://www.west-american-cars.fr/medias/images/result-mustang-gt-5l-1990-nypd.jpg?fx=r_550_550)
That's the Aerodynic that was later been mounted to NYPD Furys and Gran Furys/Diplomats replacing the old Signal Stat ..
Notice the same lighting scheme like on the former Signal Stat but compacted into a single lightbar w/ centre speaker as a progress so far .. ;)
https://www.youtube.com/v/p4LgyAHc2ew
.. also very typical with Californian b/w cruisers from CHP as seen in many TV shows and movies .. notice the 'California' setup with additional stoplight and rear amber warning flashlight .. which is a carmaker's nightmare each time .. :P
https://www.youtube.com/v/nG4ZeOUIcjQ
But what about my previous question, does it make sense to also make an NYPD Fury with that Aerodynic lightbar np so far and if so, what would be better, a simple opaque one like on the pic I had posted of it .. or transparent w/ interior what doesn't really mean a much decreased polycount compared to that somewhat complex Signal Stat setup variant :o
Frank most (though not all) Aerodynic lightbars had either this set up.:
https://www.youtube.com/v/Vg-FtozgPcg
Or this set up.:
https://www.youtube.com/v/QwG3rv1BGzU
The TwinSonic version was mainly used by NYPD or ambulances, Not many police had it though a few did but most used either the Dukes Of Hazzard types or a rare version was the one used on later shows of T.J. Hooker (you'll see it on the 1979 Dodge St. Regis I just sent) that has just 3 parts on each side, 2 sets of flashers and only 2 rotators on each side as opposed to 3 like most had.
https://www.youtube.com/v/Hci3fWEx-JA
Yes, those were typical with County or local/City Police departments like LAPD and such, you're right Paul ..
That special 'California' setup was just used by the CHP I know, just wanted to show you what always is the problem with that setup either if it is put into a Twinsonic like on the '78 Monaco or into an Aerodynic/Aerotwin (that's the correct name, he has made a little mistake there) ... that darn frontal facing red stop light/rear amber flashlight combination .. ;
So will not make such a fuzz about the Aerodynic version since most of the time you see a traffic cruiser their lights are anyway lit as soon as you get near them -LOL
Quote from: FranknFurter on Jan 02, 2017, 11:53 PM
Yes, those were typical with County or local/City Police departments like LAPD and such, you're right Paul ..
That special 'California' setup was just used by the CHP I know, just wanted to show you what always is the problem with that setup either if it is put into a Twinsonic like on the '78 Monaco or into an Aerodynic ... that darn frontal facing red stop light/rear amber flashlight combination .. ;
So will not make such a fuzz about the Aerodynic version since most of the time you see a traffic cruiser their lights are lit as soon as you get near to them -LOL
I don't recall ever seeing a CHP with that wierd AeroDynic TwinSonic but I have saw them use the typical Cali version as was used on Dukes Of Hazzard in the 2nd year up. In my old hometown of Zeigler we had a Dodge Diplomat back in the day that was very dark blue (almost black) with a white 6 point star and stripe and it had a red/white AeroDynic which had the typical 6 rotators and 2 front 2 rear flashers. I did BTW do a CHP version of the St. Regis with the AeroDynic as well. If you'd like it it's up on our site.
You're absolutely right probably, cannot really tell since I didn't grow up over there in the States -LOL
But all that doesn't concern the NYPD Fury .. just wanted to make clear the difference between them bars for WiLL, sry pal ..
Btw I agree with him, I don't like them later 'slim' bars either .. :police:
Update: screenshot of the current state of the new AeroDynic lightbar .. completely reworked and remapped using some special tricks .. cover polyload (w/o interior but with an interior bottom and seperators so far ..) 308 polies ^-^
2nd pic: one of the prototype pics I used for it ..
Question folks ..:
I can either make a simpler interior but with an appropriate look (as for example on the Gran Torino 'Sheriff') and also acceptable visual effects or a really polycostly one (with 'real' rotators and stuff ..) like on the Signal Stat version ... what do you prefer?
Quote from: FranknFurter on Jan 03, 2017, 12:03 AM
You're absolutely right probably, cannot really tell since I didn't grow up over there in the States -LOL
But all that doesn't concern the NYPD Fury .. just wanted to make clear the difference between them bars for WiLL, sry pal ..
Btw I agree with him, I don't like them later 'slim' bars either .. :police:
Update: screenshot of the current state of the new AeroDynic lightbar .. completely reworked and remapped using some special tricks .. cover polyload (w/o interior but with an interior bottom and seperators so far ..) 308 polies ^-^
2nd pic: one of the prototype pics I used for it ..
Question folks ..:
I can either make a simpler interior but with an appropriate look (as for example on the Gran Torino 'Sheriff') and also acceptable visual effects or a really polycostly one (with 'real' rotators and stuff ..) like on the Signal Stat version ... what do you prefer?
I'd go with the one with actual rotators with this one, texturing is ok for solid colors like in the Cali style but NYPD looks better with actual rotators.
thx Paul .. I'll try a 'combined' one first .. textured and normals adjusted with the inner flashers since they're behind darker shaded surfaces (red/orange) and 'real' rotators on the clear outer sections .. tricky but I think that would work ... I'll post pictures of it asap ..
current state is: made the outer reflection mirrors and textured red/orange flashers ..
Quote from: FranknFurter on Jan 03, 2017, 11:01 AM
thx Paul .. I'll try a 'combined' one first .. textured and normals adjusted with the inner flashers since they're behind darker shaded surfaces (red/orange) and 'real' rotators on the clear outer sections .. tricky but I think that would work ... I'll post pictures of it asap ..
current state is: made the outer reflection mirrors and textured red/orange flashers ..
Do you also plan on making the standard AeroDynic setups with the single blub rotators (as was Cali style and Dukes Of Hazzard,T.J. Hooker,etc.) ?
Moin Paul ... it is a funny coincidence (and I swear it is.. ;)) that Max(BrabusAMG) is also planning to do some new NYPD stuff, the Gran Fury NYPD on another base he currently reworks, he felt inspired to do by seing the Fury so we are now exchanging ideas concerning the lightbar. He of course will do a more costly and better looking interior, wait and see .. ^-^
I'm not planning to do more AeroDynics/Aerotwins but I can make one for you if you wish now that I'm at it, do you mean that 'all-rotator' setup or the four rotators/outer flashers one? I also noticed that the Aerotwin (with centre speaker) has a wider middle chrome part (because of all that audio stuff inside) than the 'all-light' versions where the chrome part isn't quite as wide, right?
Quote from: FranknFurter on Jan 03, 2017, 8:59 PM
Moin Paul ... it is a funny coincidence (and I swear it is.. ;)) that Max(BrabusAMG) is also planning to do some new NYPD stuff, the Gran Fury NYPD on another base he currently reworks, he felt inspired to do by seing the Fury so we are now exchanging ideas concerning the lightbar. He of course will do a more costly and better looking interior, wait and see .. ^-^
I'm not planning to do more AeroDynics/Aerotwins but I can make one for you if you wish now that I'm at it, do you mean that 'all-rotator' setup or the four rotators/outer flashers one? I also noticed that the Aerotwin (with centre speaker) has a wider middle chrome part (because of all that audio stuff inside) than the 'all-light' versions where the chrome part isn't quite as wide, right?
I think the standard version with 2 front/2 rear flashers and 6 rotators (3 on each side) would be a great one, I can then mod that to the other styles with no problem by adding/removing parts :).
Ok I see .. this is the one you mean, right? 6 not 4 rotators of course, plz. excuse my mistake ..
additional steady or flashing outer lights and w/ a centre speaker .. I'll see what I can do Sir ^-^
https://www.youtube.com/v/FjFOVOcGn5s
I noticed that the NYPD setup is in so far different that not only those two-coloured double halogenic spots and mirrors were used but I assume that the overall width is also smaller than on the 'standard' sized ones since the speaker doesn't cover or hide the innermost stabilizer line so all four compartments per side are fully visible ..
So the middle part isn't wider like I assumed rather than the overall size is just smaller ..
Always forgetting that lightbars were available in different sizes ::)
(http://www.lightbars.net/images/500_FS_AeroTwinsonic_NYPD_lightbar_front.jpg)
Update: Aerodynic has an interior now .. hopefully an acceptable compromise between detail and polyload ..
Polyload of lightbar: 676, overall polyload: 3839, overall carmesh: 640kB .. as said, a detailed Aerodynic wouldn't have much less polyload than the Signal Stat .. :-\
Attached a car_test zipfile as usual ... any comments are welcome if not even expected ;) before I will then prepare the uploading files for both cars ...
Nice work, and 3K8 is still solid polycount for such car nowadays. Also I support the plea for Cali Aerodynic. Maybe you would be interested in making a replica of the iconic police car from THE Terminator movie?
You already have the Fury in Adam 12 livery, but the Terminator takes place in the eighties, so the patrol cars already updated with the red/blue Aerodynic due to the LA Olympics, and the car itself would be Dodge Monaco, because the prop company went with Dodges for the movie, in stead of the Plymouths.
thanks for such suggestions Dark One ... plz. excuse my lack of information about those cars .. best if you post pictures ... or even better, start a new thread: car suggetions/ideas, this is absolutely well-meaning folks ok? Looking for new ideas .. ^-^
Quote from: Dark One on Jan 04, 2017, 10:41 AM
Nice work, and 3K8 is still solid polycount for such car nowadays. Also I support the plea for Cali Aerodynic. Maybe you would be interested in making a replica of the iconic police car from THE Terminator movie?
You already have the Fury in Adam 12 livery, but the Terminator takes place in the eighties, so the patrol cars already updated with the red/blue Aerodynic due to the LA Olympics, and the car itself would be Dodge Monaco, because the prop company went with Dodges for the movie, in stead of the Plymouths.
Yes by the 80's they went to AeroDynics but the only cars to have them from the 1970's was the 1979 Dodge St. Regis..LAPD what what ever stupid reason decided not to use Dodge Monaco, Which made no sense as they had used Dodges in the 1950's before but by the 1960's they stopped, Same with Pontiacs, They had used them before too but stopped by the 1960's. Now there was a dept. that actually was using AeroDynic (besides CHP) in 1977 and up, Bakersfield and the set up is very easy to do, I can provide a pic if one wants but it would be black&white as the book I have on U.S.-Canadian police cars has all black & white pics sadly.
I think it would be best to go with the profile it have on the IMCDB.
http://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_5701-Dodge-Monaco-1977.html
You can also notice there, that they actually did use a Fury from different set, as a back-up (the car that Arnie runs into wall at the end of the chase) but being backup prop, meant only for the crash scene, they just used surplus lightbar on it, and magnetic decals to make it look like a LAPD cruiser.
I like the Areo, one better, an the FedSig, light bars, Frank most... ok ^^
An Darkman, thanx for good info, yes I mean I seen that Cop car on Terminator 1st. Old movie was it,
I ment Darkone np man k ;)
Quote from: Paul Spain on Jan 04, 2017, 12:40 PM
Yes by the 80's they went to AeroDynics but the only cars to have them from the 1970's was the 1979 Dodge St. Regis..LAPD what what ever stupid reason decided not to use Dodge Monaco, Which made no sense as they had used Dodges in the 1950's before but by the 1960's they stopped, Same with Pontiacs, They had used them before too but stopped by the 1960's. Now there was a dept. that actually was using AeroDynic (besides CHP) in 1977 and up, Bakersfield and the set up is very easy to do, I can provide a pic if one wants but it would be black&white as the book I have on U.S.-Canadian police cars has all black & white pics sadly.
I thought that due to the Olympic games, all LAPD cars in active service got retrofitted with the Aerodynic. But the truth remains that I have no idea how many '78 Plymouths was still in service by the '84. Also LAPD was using the Belvedere, then Satelite for one year, then switched to AMC, and back to Fury in mid seventies (because the ugliness of '74 Matador was too much even for seasoned veterans :P), so unfortunately they had no reason to go with the Monaco. And it's funny that you mentioned '79 St. Regis, because LAPD denies that they purchased anything that year (and if they did, it was the Fairmont).
Quote from: Dark One on Jan 04, 2017, 2:37 PM
Quote from: Paul Spain on Jan 04, 2017, 12:40 PM
Yes by the 80's they went to AeroDynics but the only cars to have them from the 1970's was the 1979 Dodge St. Regis..LAPD what what ever stupid reason decided not to use Dodge Monaco, Which made no sense as they had used Dodges in the 1950's before but by the 1960's they stopped, Same with Pontiacs, They had used them before too but stopped by the 1960's. Now there was a dept. that actually was using AeroDynic (besides CHP) in 1977 and up, Bakersfield and the set up is very easy to do, I can provide a pic if one wants but it would be black&white as the book I have on U.S.-Canadian police cars has all black & white pics sadly.
I thought that due to the Olympic games, all LAPD cars in active service got retrofitted with the Aerodynic. But the truth remains that I have no idea how many '78 Plymouths was still in service by the '84. Also LAPD was using the Belvedere, then Satelite for one year, then switched to AMC, and back to Fury in mid seventies (because the ugliness of '74 Matador was too much even for seasoned veterans :P), so unfortunately they had no reason to go with the Monaco. And it's funny that you mentioned '79 St. Regis, because LAPD denies that they purchased anything that year (and if they did, it was the Fairmont).
Odd because they DID have the St. Regis as the 79 was well loved all over Ca. Unlike the 80 which was horrible preformance wise..SLOW!.
Only time I ever saw the LAPD St.Regis was in the "To Live and Die in L.A." movie, in some episodes of the TV shows like Hunter, and of course in that Terminator movie. I mean, I like the car more than the Newport and Gran Fury counterparts, but I never saw the legit photo of one.
And I know that CHP did got them that year, and also complained a lot when the Cali regulations literally murdered everything good about the car, but CHP had lot of Dodges in their motor pool either way.
Now I know which car you mean .. is that the one coincidentally?
(http://www.imcdb.org/i005701.jpg)
... that should be an easy one if you don't insist on also making that same damage ^-^
.. with Arnie as a driver .. not that hard since the default driver looks a bit like a Terminator anyway :police: =D
http://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_5701-Dodge-Monaco-1977.html (http://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_5701-Dodge-Monaco-1977.html)
(http://pics.imcdb.org/480/10581077108810841080108510721090108610881984bdrip1080pruseng11-41-21.jpg)
..and that is the famous chasing scene, right?
https://www.youtube.com/v/LR12SXRWfiA
btw didn't know that the '77 Eldorado had FWD (see 0:21) -LOL
When did LAPD switch from 'to care and protect' to nowadays 'to serve and protect' btw?
that's an impressive pic I must say though from another movie .. 8)
(http://i.imgur.com/3ml9gpx.jpg)
Do you folks NOW recognize the 'bulb' dummies I always do btw?
Is there a certain allusion with that movie plate btw? 999+001=1000 ('T1000') .. just wondernig ::)
Btw .. haven't seen any hints, further suggestions or objections with the new Aerodynic NYPD Fury folks .. so this is acceptable for an upload as it is now? ???
Well, you can see that the Monaco with the "metropolitan police" written on the city seal, and "to care and to protect" motto on the doors, already clashes with the real LAPD patrol cars, not to mention NY style car number 1874. Real LAPD car of the time would be something like 85874 (and won't be Dodge Monaco in the first place) but if we are trying to replicate the iconic car from the movie, with all the flaws and inaccurateness, 1874 it is.
At least it's still better than the bizarro California from "Genisys", where they went full GTA, and CHP have eight pointed star, SFPD have their logo over some golden shield, and LAPD have a damn crest over a five pointed star.
.. you decide folks .. I can update the existing LAPD Fury with a Cali Aerodynic what would be more authentic with real cars or adjust the '78 Monaco to that scheme to make it similar to the movie 'iconic' car .. I'm clueless concerning this :o
Cannot do more than offer to you what is possible .. ???
It is being the same also with other movie cars .. think of the '77 TA from Bandit movie .. in some far away takes it is a newer '79 backup and if you watch closely when showing interior he sometimes drives manual sometimes automatic gearshift .. what is also being considered as one of the best known movie car glitches in history btw -LOL
The thing is, that I don't really know how far LAPD went with the Aerodynic. I am aware that Gran Fury had it, and Fairmont had it, because there are photos of these cars, but whenever I see Fury with Aerodynic, it's a movie prop, or replica. And most interesting LAPD car so far is the 1974 Dodge Coronet with Twinsonic, which is pure fantasy (LAPD did tested the Twinsonic in 1974, but on the Matador).
I'm not sure what is the best way around this. But the car from the movie is Dodge Monaco, so that would be the most important part. ;)
Hi bro Frank, Quite a battle you have here, good Topic I told you the light Bars, I like more... np. :)
An Darkone dude, seems to know much about these Classic, Fury an Monico ones is cool
How was the Beta, Frank how was it? I'm off to Library soon I think, to darn, Burr man...
... could it be that you cannot really decide dark one?
.. the 'T.J. Hooker' car appears to me as the halfway most authentic and properly looking ... haven't found many pics of 'Dodge Monaco '77 or '78 LAPD', most of them are fictional movie or TV show cars .. notice even the comletely wrong searchlights on the cars, LAPD cruisers didn't have them ..
(http://pics.imcdb.org/9656/tjh-221-vlcsnap-00085.jpg)
found this one from 'blue thunder' movie with a wrong or modified decal but should as well depict an LAPD cruiser but is a Plymouth Fury ...
(http://www.imcdb.org/i034858.jpg)
Real pics of '77 LAPD Furys always have that old 'tin can' lights setup which I already did and cars with an Aerodynic lightbar depict then the later Gran Fury or the St. Regis which I consider as ugly ..
(http://adam12code3.com/a12c3_fury_granfury.jpg)
.. np for me to make a fictional car but I then need some specifications of what the car should be like ..
I'll tell you what my problem is ... may sound nit picky but .. of all movie car replicas it was just the Terminator I 'Police Dodge Plymouth' whatever cruiser of that special scene that didn't fit onto my backyard lawn anymore .. or was it my intermediate lack of money lately -LOL ... so for that specific one I unfortunately have to use internet prototype pics ..
Almost everybody knows that for example the Bluesmobile was a '74 Monaco or the Bandit car was a '77 TA even if other cars where used for backup in the meantime .. but if I state the 'famous Terminator I chase scene Police car' as a '77 Dodge Monaco LAPD there might be certain folks that know for sure that this car 1.) didn't exist -what is ok- since it is fictional, 2.) was being a '77 Plymouth LAPD cruiser what is somewhat more probable or even 3.) was an 'old Ford' .. LOL .. see what I mean?
So to shorten this up folks just make a request like that: .. (plz.) do a fictional car '77 Dodge Monaco in an LAPD livery featuring an Aerodynic Cali lightbar setup like it has been seen in 'Terminator I' movie or smth. in of that kind .. that might help on that issue perhaps ok? .. nevermind .. ;)
Sure, there might be some people not knowing it was a Dodge, let alone Monaco. There might be some people that didn't watched the movie in the first place. But the chase did make that particular Dodge Monaco (with Arnie behind the steering wheel) iconic car, considering that whatever we might think about the last movie, it got a cameo there (though only to get destroyed, again), you yourself posted an image of it, and once again it was a Monaco. ;)
Also, police cars from 'T.J. Hooker' belongs to fictional L.C.P.D. that only later on got identified in one episode as the Las Cruces Police Department. And the 'Blue Thunder' is science fiction, so the cars not being authentic, is not really an issue. They could have Whelen strobe lightbars, and it won't affect the movie in any way.
But, I see what are you trying to say. Lets ignore the Plymouth Fury altogether for now, both the real patrol cars and the stunt backup from the movie.
So... Frank, could you please make that movie car, the fictional 1977 Dodge Monaco of the 'Metropolitan Police of Los Angeles', with the Aerodynic lightbar (and the other details like the "to care and to protect" motto, 999076 registration plates, and the unit number 1874), as it appeared in 'The Terminator' movie?
Yes, that be a Pretty Cool, Nice Fictional Request, rite? What D.one, said I like to have that, on my Backup, Team, for Summit too. My Suv's are to Good on there ;) need more Rollovers,crash.cars only ;) Etc :D
Traffic.Vers-'. I ment,would be Sweeet! Frank...an add Arnies, face, an his, red eye hanging out. An thanks much DarkOne for the Request! I bet it only take him,less than 2 days, to get,her all Completed... LOLZ cause he's not a Slacker on Patrol? ;)
Frank I just examined your NYPD Plymouth Fury, Great work on the AeroDynic however you might want to add the base plank to the lightbar, I noticed your's is missing the bottom half.
Also to bring this back "on topic" to NY..Did you know they also used a Yankee-Dietz lightbar too on the Furys, Infact it got more use than the AeroDynic on the Furys, AeroDynic got most of it's use on the Diplomats and Gran Furys.
https://www.youtube.com/v/WoYL8-Hv1zE
They call it Signal Stat but one can clearly see it is the same Yankee-Dietz just under another name.
https://www.youtube.com/v/ZtL6yIBsPhk
@Paul: yes I noticed that and I also have pictures of it -LOL .. 8)
A 'base plank' or whatever it is called is very well existing and is assigned to :OC part ??? .. have a look .. is it too small, incorrect or whatever, Paul? I'm clueless 'bout that .. ???
@Dark One and WiLL:
Quote from: Dark Onefictional 1977 Dodge Monaco of the 'Metropolitan Police of Los Angeles', with the Aerodynic lightbar (and the other details like the "to care and to protect" motto, 999076 registration plates, and the unit number 1874), as it appeared in 'The Terminator' movie
10-4 .. copy that, order is well read and accepted Sir .. :police: ^-^
All engines running within correct parameters and we're ready for lift-off (cannot help always quoting 'Apollo 13' movie .. -LOL)
Quote from: WiLL...an add Arnies, face, an his, red eye hanging out
I think his artificial face surface wasn't as destroyed in that scene as it then became later during the movie -LOL
Very much afraid that there isn't enough texture space left to map his actual face to the driver ..sry pal ???
Anyway .. who on earth would want that :( :P
But have you ever looked more closely at the 'Empire cop' from ver. III? Much similarities to a Terminator cop isn't it? I don't have HP anymore but can anyone send that? would then convert it to an HS file and add that to the car as the cop that'd be cool -LOL
Quote from: WiLLI bet it only take him,less than 2 days
Weeeell .. you're overestimating my abilities alot but I feel flattered as well thx bro .. although I must admit that the base car could very well be quickly done .. if there weren't those other details .. of which I'm not really sure if I can make them in such an overall completeness let alone finding pics or such .. but ok I'll see what I can do Sirs ;)
Hi Frank it was just a Comment was all, from yesterday, was all , an you sure do alot.. Great Detail here.. Sure. Info i mean,an its Great! Have a Well,Safe weekend! getting the NYPD Unit now. ^-^ ;) 8)
Hope more can follow, in the next weeks,etc. ttul'
so u guys aren't still fed up with such old irons? hope so and thx J.. WiLL.. LOL
There might be more to come .. depends on .. u know what .. needn't be the only the Fury .. although it is one of most 'bad ass'd' cars ever ... ^-^
You're on the right track Frank it's just the base isn't hidden under the lightbar as you have it and it's a wee bit taller and thinker, I'd say it's about the same as a old TwinSonic base in size but not quite as wide as one. I think the base on them was plastic, Not sure but if it was metal they never left it bare metal and always painted it black.
You may be all too right as always pal but I always keep in mind the polyload and optical rendition ingame .. this isn't HP2 or later where I can add and add details ... you cannot compare HS to newer versions where each and every detail is being added and displayed like on a fine scale model, ok that base is perhaps just another 8 polies or so but where's an end to that? I can as well model the mounting screws to it np for me well but who on earth sees that except for you? See I simply modelled that new AeroDynic from another DodgeBoy original car I can't even remember which one, why didn't he also add that base plate although DodgeBoy really was an exact and precise modeler? Must be a reason why ...
You know we share another same hobby or passion Model Railroading .. dunno if over there in the U.S. there's also that discrimination of 'rivet counters' .. that's what you probably are bro but others might be satisfied if things just look 'good enough' ...
go ahead modelling this Prussian G12 for the better as a lifetime job perhaps ... and tell us when you're finished ^-^
.. don't forget it's a three cylinders steam engine ...
(http://s1gf.de/index.php?page=Attachment&attachmentID=9951&h=347ac442e17ca2029692bb6ae04ffe62420b4290)
I like this Train pic sure is Cool tho 5 big wheels on her huh: ) I don't know a lot about them, I like Hobbys more in Winter time...
Ttul-' An Paul, you have a Well day too ;)
Cya l8er
Quote from: FranknFurter on Jan 06, 2017, 7:16 PM
You may be all too right as always pal but I always keep in mind the polyload and optical rendition ingame .. this isn't HP2 or later where I can add and add details ... you cannot compare HS to newer versions where each and every detail is being added and displayed like on a fine scale model, ok that base is perhaps just another 8 polies or so but where's an end to that? I can as well model the mounting screws to it np for me well but who on earth sees that except for you? See I simply modelled that new AeroDynic from another DodgeBoy original car I can't even remember which one, why didn't he also add that base plate although DodgeBoy really was an exact and precise modeler? Must be a reason why ...
You know we share another same hobby or passion Model Railroading .. dunno if over there in the U.S. there's also that discrimination of 'rivet counters' .. that's what you probably are bro but others might be satisfied if things just look 'good enough' ...
go ahead modelling this Prussian G12 for the better as a lifetime job perhaps ... and tell us when you're finished ^-^
.. don't forget it's a three cylinders steam engine ...
(http://s1gf.de/index.php?page=Attachment&attachmentID=9951&h=347ac442e17ca2029692bb6ae04ffe62420b4290)
OMg I have the exact type train but a much shorter shunt type, It's plastic & battery operated though not electric, I got it at Target years ago, Also picked up a modern diesel train (plastic also) to complete the old/new set, Oddly enough the German one got Americanized and has a Massachusetts Rail Company on it :P. Same black with red bottom design though. It unfortunatly (nor does the diesel) have real lightup headlights, I had to paint the headlights as they was just the same color as the body. I have tested these and they will run on HO track just they ain't electric but it might be possible to mod them to electric. They do however come with tracks, Cheap grey plastic ones non detailed, Even the ties are grey UGH >:( can China not paint them brown? Mine don't come with those cardboard buildings like in the pics though, Just the tracks and that small gate house by the crossing signs. I'm guessing these was a later issue set than what I bought. I'd have got bigger pics to show BUT I'm at work now and they seem to block all but a few pic sites, So I had to grab the Google thumbnails and save those then attach.
Anyhow on the lightbar, I can slap the bottom on it from a AeroDynic I did long ago so no biggie, I just thought you might want to know about how the base looked on them. Your rotators looks better than what I used though :), Do you scratch make them or use existing rotators from other lightbars as I do?
cannot really tell from the first small pic but should be a very common SD70 diesel electric type ...
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/0/04/BNSF_8808_SD70MAC.jpg)
... I like the classic EMD F-7 better .. such a cool clean machine ^-^
(http://www.zuckerfabrik24.de/eisenbahn/pic3/F3_3sf.jpg)
build back in the 40's/50's - two stroke diesel electric engine .. pounding like a hammer .. =D
.. wish to have heard that once in real life passing by ... :)
listen to some explanations and data of the F-7 .. impressive .. if you're calling a 440 an 'large engine' -LOL
https://youtube.com/v/rYCsTHmrT_Q
.. listened to what he said btw? 2000 Amps(!) of DC current .. you can melt down your garage by that ... and this quite an old one .. :o
Märklin has also build the F-7 as a historic 'AmTrak' version .. wish I had the money tho .. :-\
(https://az95169.vo.msecnd.net/images/consignment/large/L37621.jpg)
nice winter pic shoving through the snow here is ..
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/8/81/Amtrak_San_Francisco_Zephyr.jpg)
Your steamer should be a fantasy one but reminds me of a German Hanomag build class 81 if it is a 0-8-0 shunter ..
(http://www.bahnbilder.de/bilder/81-005-arbeitet-jahr-1962-1269.jpg)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DRG_Class_81 (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DRG_Class_81)
.. popular small shunter tank loco often build more or less accurately .. :-\
from this ..
(http://www.harald-johns.com/SAMMLUNG/Fotos/0633_BR%2081%20701.jpg)
to this ..
(http://www.modellbahnmanufaktur-crottendorf.de/files/dsc04516.jpg)
it is the big brother of the much more common class 80 .. also very popular 0-6-0 shunter tank loco
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/6/6c/Dampflok_80_023.JPG/1920px-Dampflok_80_023.JPG)
.. both were of the so-called 'standard type' locomotives (Einheitsbaureihe) from former 'Deutsche Reichsbahn Gesellschaft' much different from older former 'Länderbahn' baureihen (classes) like 'Pxx (Personen- means 'commuter train loco', Sxx (Schnellzug- 'fast train', Gxx (Güterzug- 'Goods or freight train loco' and so on .. (the above G12 class is such since it is a former Prussian railway build before 'Deutsche Reichsbahn')
back to topic and call that a day bro, there's other forums out there for that stuff ... :police: