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Title: Great nfs3 car but unknown author
Post by: noise on Sep 02, 2007, 3:11 AM
Found this great low poly Mercury Cougar on nfsstreetdogs here:

//http://nfs.onlinewelten.com/en/downloads,id206,mercury_cougar_eliminator.html

I got a feeling that somebody named ''stacker'', made a bad conversion to nfs4 found here:

//http://nfs.onlinewelten.com/en/downloads,id2963,1969_mercury_cougar.html

I also did a quick conversion (see pic).The car showed up in black and I couldn't change that

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http://img402.imageshack.us/img402/5184/mercurycougareliminatorga1.jpg


2 questions:

-Does anybody know the car or author
-How can I change the colors (it worked in nfs3, so why not in nfs4)
Title: Great nfs3 car but unknown author
Post by: TS on Sep 02, 2007, 9:00 AM
The alpha channels in NFS4 are different than NFS3, things can get a little complicated with that, I can help you with that.
Title: Great nfs3 car but unknown author
Post by: Zpectre on Sep 02, 2007, 12:10 PM
Quote from: TSThe alpha channels in NFS4 are different than NFS3, things can get a little complicated with that, I can help you with that.
But even then it's weird since the car should turn grey (colour usually used for the body in the texture) instead of black...
Title: Great nfs3 car but unknown author
Post by: noise on Sep 03, 2007, 9:21 AM
Okay, what to do with alpha channel? as you see in the pic I also converted the Renault sport spider.On this car also the colors don't work.

Here are more nfs3 conversions:

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http://img509.imageshack.us/img509/8714/tvrtamofordlotuscortinaiq3.jpg
(//)http://img509.imageshack.us/img509/5397/porsche914sw3.jpg
(//)http://img509.imageshack.us/img509/7324/mitsubishishoguncm8.jpg
(//)http://img74.imageshack.us/img74/9716/mercedesbenz300slrfq3.jpg

ps: I like to mention the cars are for personal use.
Title: Great nfs3 car but unknown author
Post by: Zpectre on Sep 03, 2007, 1:13 PM
In the alpha channel, 223 is the colour of the main body (also called "primary colour"). This is the alpha channel of my Murciélago LP640:

(http://img113.imageshack.us/img113/6552/alphachannelsrx9.jpg)

223 is primary colour, 96 is secondary colour (for colour-changing rims), 255 is opaque and 0 is transparent.

Oh and please share that Renault Spider with us!!! ;)
Title: Great nfs3 car but unknown author
Post by: Zpectre on Sep 03, 2007, 1:17 PM
Double post.
Title: Great nfs3 car but unknown author
Post by: noise on Sep 04, 2007, 9:31 AM
I believe converting the nfs3 Renault Spider to nfs4 is very easy for you to do.I don't have permission to upload.

//http://www.nfscars.net/file/view/hotpursuit/7150.aspx

Can I use the nfs3 alphachannel or do I have to make a new one.
Title: Great nfs3 car but unknown author
Post by: Zpectre on Sep 04, 2007, 10:48 AM
Quote from: noiseCan I use the nfs3 alphachannel or do I have to make a new one.
You can, just paint it with NFS4 colours.
Title: Great nfs3 car but unknown author
Post by: noise on Sep 04, 2007, 12:18 PM
here's the alphachannel from the mercury in fce finish:

(http://img204.imageshack.us/img204/1934/iviewcapturedate0409200xj3.jpg)
By nois (http://profile.imageshack.us/user/nois) at 2007-09-04

The white color should be the primary color for the body but it shows up black ''in game''
Title: Great nfs3 car but unknown author
Post by: Remko on Sep 17, 2007, 10:52 AM
I can't help you with the conversion problems, noise, but I DO know who the author of the original car is. His name is Kris Winters, but he used the nickname 'Cougar' as an NFS author.
Nice to see the readme on the NFS3 car is still intact, but it seems his name was never in there.
(reading the other names mentioned in it is like a nostalgia trip ;))

Nowadays we consider it a decent low-poly model, but at the time, a polycount approaching 2400 was almost considered too much. :p Notice the apology in the readme about the lack of low-detail carmodels and the warning about lagging on slower PCs. Different times, my man. ;)

Point 2, yes, there IS an NFS4 version of it, but it's been a while since it was on any websites, and right now I don't know if I have an original ZIPfile on any of my backup DVDs. I DO have a separate Car.viv file of the NFS4 Cougar, as it was part of the line up of the original Detroit Muscle mod (veterans may remember that). I can get you the .viv, if you want.

I haven't heard of Cougar since 2000 or so, he used to hang around a bit on NFSCheats and the old TotalNFS (nowadays Racerplanet) and I doubt if his old email address still works, but I could give it a try, should you want me to.
Title: Great nfs3 car but unknown author
Post by: -Aka-NFSWiLL on Sep 17, 2007, 1:06 PM
I remeber using this Car.. waay back then i likes the wheels they Reminded me sorta of the Srarky & Hutch Cars wheels.
Hi Remko nice to see yah around 2 times a year maybe ;) :D
Title: Great nfs3 car but unknown author
Post by: Remko on Sep 28, 2007, 1:48 PM
Quote from: -Aka-NFSWiLLHi Remko nice to see yah around 2 times a year maybe ;) :D
Hey WiLL, good to see you're still around.
I'd like to be around more, but I've said that so often that It's probably beginning to annoy people. :ugh:

I will admit I'm liking Pro Street better than Carbon so far, so I may be a bit more involved once the game is released. :)
Title: Great nfs3 car but unknown author
Post by: -Aka-NFSWiLL on Sep 28, 2007, 4:56 PM
QuoteFrom Remko    
Hey WiLL, good to see you're still around.
I'd like to be around more, but I've said that so often that It's probably beginning to annoy people. :ugh:
Yes it allready has me..LOL Joking old friend :D

Yes maybe after it gets out i would like
to Try it out also
Hope some them cars could get Converted to NFS 4 HS if ever possible ;)
Title: Great nfs3 car but unknown author
Post by: noise on Sep 30, 2007, 2:44 AM
Thanks Remko, for the info about the Mercury.Does the nfs4 conversion have multiple colors? If so I like you to send me the .viv.

I thought I picked up all the Detroit Muscle cars, but I didn't see this one.Isn't the Detr. Muscle mod downloadeble anymore?

Do you know the '62 Chevy Belair by Bigblock

http://jpracing.racerplanet.com/modules/mydownloads/viewcat.php?cid=87&min=30&orderby=titleA&show=10

It has a superbe dash.I found it today, unbelieveble I didn't see it before, it's probably around for many years.
Title: Great nfs3 car but unknown author
Post by: bucksavage on Sep 30, 2007, 10:38 PM
If anyone finds a d/l for the NFS4 version of the Cougar, let me know, it looks pretty cool!
Title: Great nfs3 car but unknown author
Post by: Remko on Oct 17, 2007, 2:01 PM
Damn, sorry to keep you guys waiting for so long...

I have been digging through my backups but was unable to find the original NFS4 zip from back in the day.
So I grabbed the  Cougar .viv file from the 2001 Detroit Muscle Release, zipped it and uploaded it temporary here: http://www.sendspace.com/file/4qs4z7 (Link Fixed)

This is just the viv, there's no readme or anything else in terms of credits, which is why I'm asking everyone to please NOT upload this to any other sites in its current state. If I can't track the original Zip anywhere soon, I will create a readme of my own, fix the class (It's now AAA because that is what it was in DM, originally it was Class A) and officially release it to NFSAddons with proper credits to Cougar as the author within the coming days.
This is just a temp fix for personal use.

I am not sure if this link will work for everyone; let me know if it doesn't and I'll try an alternative location. Keep in mind that this file will be auto-deleted from that server if it isn't downloaded for 7 days, so it won't stay around forever.

And yes, the car has multiple colours: White, Blue, Yellow and Orange (which I assume are accurate).

The Detroit Muscle mod is sadly no longer available as far as I know. I'll consider re-uploading it, but I feel I should clear this with RunR and IH8COPS first.
Title: Great nfs3 car but unknown author
Post by: Rafel on Oct 17, 2007, 4:13 PM
oooooh file is deleted :(
Title: Great nfs3 car but unknown author
Post by: -Aka-NFSWiLL on Oct 17, 2007, 4:23 PM
Well doesent seem like 7 days are up allready? Remko Gee
It was just Posted what today?. :rolleyes:
here is the what it said to me:
Sorry, the file you requested is not available.
 
This file was available for a limited period of time and has now been deleted.  

Please contact the uploader and ask them to upload the file again. sendspace is not able to help you in this matter.
Title: Great nfs3 car but unknown author
Post by: Remko on Oct 18, 2007, 5:11 AM
Oh Crap, :eek3::mad: I'm an idiot and posted the wrong link, sorry guys. That's what you get for trying to do two things at the same time.
It should work now: http://www.sendspace.com/file/4qs4z7

Please have some screens to make up for it.

(http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b361/RemkoVR/NFS4/th_NfsHS_20.jpg) (http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b361/RemkoVR/NFS4/NfsHS_20.jpg) (http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b361/RemkoVR/NFS4/th_NfsHS_12.jpg) (http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b361/RemkoVR/NFS4/NfsHS_12.jpg) (http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b361/RemkoVR/NFS4/th_NfsHS_26.jpg) (http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b361/RemkoVR/NFS4/NfsHS_26.jpg) (http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b361/RemkoVR/NFS4/th_Eliminator6.jpg) (http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b361/RemkoVR/NFS4/Eliminator6.jpg)    (http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b361/RemkoVR/NFS4/th_Eliminator-pursuit1.jpg) (http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b361/RemkoVR/NFS4/Eliminator-pursuit1.jpg) (http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b361/RemkoVR/NFS4/th_DM-Empire_01.jpg) (http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b361/RemkoVR/NFS4/DM-Empire_01.jpg)
Title: Great nfs3 car but unknown author
Post by: -Aka-NFSWiLL on Oct 18, 2007, 6:25 AM
Ah your ok...Um so did you fix the this Car up what i mean is it able to Change Colors now?. did you fix that Remko?
in the Car.viv now? And Thx also Great Pics ;)

Hey for got to ask you this the Screens you have dont
Look like NFS`3?. So is this Car a NFS4hs car?
Unlike the the Topic Threads Name says?
im just Confused some heh,Thx again Rem.
Title: Great nfs3 car but unknown author
Post by: Remko on Oct 18, 2007, 6:47 AM
Yep, this is the official NFS HS version, released by Cougar himself in 1999, and yes, it has 4 official colours. :)
Title: Great nfs3 car but unknown author
Post by: noise on Oct 19, 2007, 10:19 AM
Thanks Remko.Nice pics also