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Title: My proof
Post by: Oliver Oresic on Aug 14, 2007, 11:01 AM
Ok, I drove with legit car and I beat online record without problems.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jA-5fhqjrgE
Also, I drove on nfs5 with legit car.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=st_G08hUL18


merged two threads-

I sent my records to Giles Bett and he didnt put them on site. This site was last time updated in march 2006.

eliminated another thread. S-
Title: My proof
Post by: on Aug 14, 2007, 11:46 AM
Quote from: Oliver OresicOk, I drove with legit car and I beat online record without problems.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jA-5fhqjrgE
No, you didn't. If you're going to compare yourself against online records, TURN YOUR TUNING OFF.

You see, online records are done WITHOUT tuning. The game simply doesn't let you tune cars online. If you have ever done any serious racing without tuning, you would know that the McLaren F1 is MUCH faster than the CLK-GTR on Summit.

From what I can tell, your video shows a lap time of 2:13.xx (but I might be wrong, its pretty hard to see). The best record online is currently 02:20.56, done by 007 (aka EAOAgent, _Alonso_). I have heard that 2:19.xx is possible.

Meanwhile, that video has tuning written all over it. While I can't get a top time on Summit, I have seen replays of top times, and let me tell you... there is very little room for error. Your video is not like that; though you do have a basic grasp of some of the lines, you aren't perfect on the majority of your corners. And you're driving the wrong car.

In the future, don't post videos.... save replays and ghosts instead and pass those around. And don't claim to be the best... because chances are very good that you're not. (speaking from experience here:p)

Besides... I thought that thread was locked. Maybe you didn't get the hint.

cya online

unBtable

PS. If I can, I'll tune a CLK offline and see what I can do, and post that time in this thread (if it isn't locked first). I'd like to see how you match up in reality.
Title: My proof
Post by: Sinister on Aug 14, 2007, 11:53 AM
oliver, you may think your times are great, but honestly i dont think anyone else cares about laprecords like you do., and i will agree with unbtable in saying tuned cars aren't legit in record keeping.
Title: My proof
Post by: CrownVic316 on Aug 14, 2007, 12:52 PM
Personally, I am starting to wonder why people are so obsessed with records :rolleyes: If you're going to bother, turn off the tuning, and save the replay. Then you've got legit proof. I know that w/o tuning the F1 is faster. I can't get a record (closest I ever got was 2.31.69), and I haven't tried in a long time, but you still got the wrong car for what you're trying. The F1 is amazingly better on summit, and most all the twisty courses like rocky Pass and County Woods and the like.
Title: My proof
Post by: Car Freak on Aug 15, 2007, 3:45 AM
ok, so what's the point of showing this to us? There's a lot more to games than just records... And while I don't doubt your driving skills, i think you're quite the braggart...

I mean, I managed the semi-finals in Singapore's WCG round with Carbon, and you don't see me showing my lap times off to everyone... (Though if there's anyone who wants to compare... :D)

and Oliver, i'm not trying to insult you or watever, i'm just a very frank and to-the-point person
Title: My proof
Post by: Dark Ritual on Aug 15, 2007, 4:34 AM
Sorry if I tried to hijack this thread, but I just found out there's loads of differences when tuning and no tuning. (I tested this in NFS3 although it is not NFS4).

I ran less than 2 min (1:53:57) with Tuning.
I ran a bit over 2 min (2:00:38) without Tuning.
Both are CLKs. so by what I saw the proof, the CLK was totally tuned.
Title: My proof
Post by: Oliver Oresic on Aug 15, 2007, 6:56 AM
I drove without tunnings and cheats on summit and hometown with  McLaren F1 GTR and my time on summit was 2:20.18 and on hometown under 59 seconds. I saved the replays and ghosts of that races. My corners on video werent perfect, because I drove without traction control. If anyone is interested too watch replay, just say.
Title: My proof
Post by: CrownVic316 on Aug 15, 2007, 10:15 AM
Don't you get what we've all been saying!? No offense, but I don't think anyone other than you cares about all your "amazing" records and whatever else you wish to brag about. Let it go, man. NFS is about fun and races. Not everything in life is a competition.
Title: My proof
Post by: on Aug 15, 2007, 11:31 AM
Most of the records you see online are done without any assists at all... if a race is done with assists on, it is isn't used for ratings, and it isn't displayed on the 'track records' page.

It's just the way its done online.

That said, yes, it would be nice to see a replay... I'll PM you my email :)
Title: My proof
Post by: Oliver Oresic on Aug 16, 2007, 10:27 AM
What about nfs2 (there I have the best skills), nfs3 and nfs5?
Title: My proof
Post by: Sinister on Aug 16, 2007, 8:28 PM
the best compared to whom?
Title: My proof
Post by: ToyotaWish on Aug 17, 2007, 6:11 AM
(http://img53.imageshack.us/img53/884/nooegivesajv0.jpg)
Title: My proof
Post by: CrownVic316 on Aug 17, 2007, 9:21 AM
Exactly! :rant: Motion seconded :o
Title: My proof
Post by: on Aug 17, 2007, 10:20 AM
Quote from: Oliver OresicI drove without tunnings and cheats on summit and hometown with  McLaren F1 GTR and my time on summit was 2:20.18 and on hometown under 59 seconds. I saved the replays and ghosts of that races. My corners on video werent perfect, because I drove without traction control. If anyone is interested too watch replay, just say.
Ok, I've watched your replays, and put them through my replay checker too.
Results:
You were right about the times, but those replays DO have tuning. And some assists. I'm not talking about editing the cars.... I'm talking about the in-game options. Go into the car-tuning menu, press 'reset to defaults.' Make sure that all assists are off, and that damage is set to 'On' or 'Physics-Only'.

Another note, maybe 'perfect' wasn't the right word. Maybe I should have said 'agressive.'

Here's a place for you to see what some of the online folks are capable of: (all are without tuning or assists)

http://www.hsscoring.com/replays/
I recommend you have a look at the 'EAOAgent' folder as well as the 'GER' folder.
Title: My proof
Post by: Oliver Oresic on Aug 17, 2007, 10:27 AM
What agressive? I am not bad, you saw!
Title: My proof
Post by: bucksavage on Aug 17, 2007, 10:44 AM
Aggressive means you wnet into the corners hard and fast and took them with full force, not that you did them bad.
Title: My proof
Post by: Oliver Oresic on Aug 17, 2007, 11:01 AM
But my time wasnt bad, I drive strange to you because I was driving FZR non-stop and accustom to his style. I will try to drive with steering wheel and agressive.
Title: My proof
Post by: on Aug 17, 2007, 1:53 PM
You should really have a look at those replays to see what I mean by aggressive ;)
I think you'll see the difference, oliver...  :bigthumb:
Remember, those are done without tuning or assists :p
Title: My proof
Post by: Oliver Oresic on Aug 18, 2007, 10:40 AM
Yeah, but it is hard to me to adapt on McLaren, after hours spending with FZR. What is CART class?
Title: My proof
Post by: on Aug 18, 2007, 4:32 PM
Cart class is part of the expansion pack that we use online... It has Mclaren Mp4/14 and Jordan 199/Fretzen. You could compare your records against the ones done online, but once again, the ones done online have no tuning.

As for going backwards to Mclaren and CLK .... I find it relaxing when I drop back down to those cars after racing CART. Kinda like driving traffic cars, but faster.;)
Title: My proof
Post by: Oliver Oresic on Aug 19, 2007, 2:17 AM
I downloaded a lot of f1 cars, what is AAA+ clas?
Title: My proof
Post by: on Aug 19, 2007, 5:20 AM
I don't feel like listing all the cars, so look here, under 'Appendix B: Expansion Pack Tracks and Cars'

http://www.hsscoring.com/HSGuide/
Title: My proof
Post by: bucksavage on Aug 19, 2007, 9:03 AM
I guess AAA+ would be cars that would be so fast that they would exceed even that class, like CART, IRL or F1 cars.
Title: My proof
Post by: on Aug 19, 2007, 12:58 PM
Well, we have AAA+. And then we have CART, which is faster yet :p and therefore my favourite. ;)

These 'extra' classes are only used in scoring etc., because you can't actually make a new class in the game. AAA+ cars show up as AAA in the game, and CART shows up as B (If it were AAA, you would have no chance against the AI when racing regular AAA).
Title: My proof
Post by: Oliver Oresic on Aug 21, 2007, 10:36 AM
Last week I created the fastest car in history of nfs4.
CELTIC RUINS   0:35.46   FZR 3000
LANDSTRASSE   0:43.09   FZR 3000
DOLPHIN COVE   0:41.31   FZR 3000
KINDIAK PARK   0:35.84   FZR 3000
ROUTE ADONF   0:40.25   FZR 3000
DURHAM ROAD   0:31.65   FZR 3000
SNOWY RIDGE   0:53.75   FZR 3000
RACEWAY 1   0:36.00   FZR 3000
RACEWAY 2   0:30.78   FZR 3000
RACEWAY 3   0:43.25   FZR 3000
HOMETOWN   0:26.96   FZR 3000
REDROCK RIDGE   0:46.21   FZR 3000
ATLANTICA   0:47.43   FZR 3000
ROCKY PASS   1:00.93   FZR 3000
COUNTRY WOODS   0:52.81   FZR 3000
LOST CANYONS   0:58.56   FZR 3000
AQUATICA    1:04.40   FZR 3000
SUMMIT                   1:23.18   FZR 3000
EMPIRE CITY   0:45.81   FZR 3000
I have now 691 records
Title: My proof
Post by: on Aug 21, 2007, 12:20 PM
I give up
Title: My proof
Post by: Sinister on Aug 21, 2007, 12:37 PM
it doesnt get through.

those records dont matter.. especially when Pro Street Comes out, he'll have to prove himself against the best at that time.
Title: My proof
Post by: CrownVic316 on Aug 21, 2007, 5:43 PM
Quote from: unBtableI give up
Agree. He obviously messing with something, but I don't care enough to prove it. The game is way old for online records and stuff anyway. When Pro-Street comes out, then we'll see how he really does.
Title: My proof
Post by: Oliver Oresic on Aug 22, 2007, 7:33 AM
I dont like new nfs, new nfs must be high stakes 2, look thread at nfscars http://www.nfscars.net/forum/showthread.php?t=20260
Title: My proof
Post by: CrownVic316 on Aug 22, 2007, 7:37 AM
That'll never happen, because be the cop mode never sells games. I like the idea, but it's just wishful thinking, unless we get an assload of signatures fora petition or whatever. (And it probably still wouldn't happen.) Pigs will fly before EA does a HS2. (Throwing the pigs at the sky doesn't count, they must fly by themselves :D)

EA's going to stick to the rice and all that shit because that's what make the big money.
Title: My proof
Post by: Oliver Oresic on Aug 22, 2007, 10:53 AM
Here is the video of my driving with new car.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kFRqdQx-3A4
Title: My proof
Post by: Sinister on Aug 22, 2007, 4:39 PM
Quote from: CrownVic316That'll never happen, because be the cop mode never sells games. I like the idea, but it's just wishful thinking, unless we get an assload of signatures fora petition or whatever. (And it probably still wouldn't happen.) Pigs will fly before EA does a HS2. (Throwing the pigs at the sky doesn't count, they must fly by themselves :D)

EA's going to stick to the rice and all that shit because that's what make the big money.
EA is not sticking to rice.. they are sticking with much Vehicular Customization..  and really.. with Pro Street, you can still keep your car stock.
Title: My proof
Post by: CrownVic316 on Aug 22, 2007, 5:40 PM
Whatever ;) My point be that they are not going to have cop chases/be the cop/HS style races and pursuits anytime soon because "much customization" as you put it, is what sells, not realistic pursuits and remakes of old games.
Title: My proof
Post by: Oliver Oresic on Aug 24, 2007, 10:19 AM
What about my new video?
Title: My proof
Post by: Sinister on Aug 24, 2007, 5:58 PM
what about it?

CrownVic.. I think that sanctioned street racing is the way to go. and since its not Forza style. the gameplay will be much better.
Title: My proof
Post by: Oliver Oresic on Aug 25, 2007, 10:36 AM
I said what do you think about my skill with FZR 3000 in this video
Title: My proof
Post by: Sinister on Aug 25, 2007, 11:26 AM
wouldnt know, im not interested in your skill with the FZR3000, maybe try something new.
Title: My proof
Post by: CrownVic316 on Aug 25, 2007, 3:13 PM
Who cares, not really interested in your "skills" Don't you get that by now?:rolleyes:
Title: My proof
Post by: Oliver Oresic on Aug 27, 2007, 10:19 AM
I have 712 records right now, I need 288 more records.
Title: My proof
Post by: Lotec on Aug 27, 2007, 2:20 PM
And not a soul cares, why is that so difficult to understand? :rolleyes:
Title: My proof
Post by: CrownVic316 on Aug 27, 2007, 6:06 PM
We have been telling you for 2 whole pages that no one gives a shit :rolleyes: We don't care so don't bother us about it :o No one cares, so just give it up for God's sake. Geez :mad:
Title: My proof
Post by: Oliver Oresic on Aug 29, 2007, 11:11 AM
All right, but watch my new video and I have a lot of new records.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7hKV_M2jqIg
If you dont care I wont be unhappy, I will beat records, now I have 720 records
Title: My proof
Post by: Sinister on Aug 29, 2007, 1:00 PM
so who's records are you beating.. cause you're certainly not beating mine.

also that FZR is going over 600, unrealistic, so all records using that car are void.
Title: My proof
Post by: BMWsport on Aug 29, 2007, 2:43 PM
should it be locked, or open for entertainment?  :)
Title: My proof
Post by: Sinister on Aug 29, 2007, 2:49 PM
call it in the air BMW.
Title: My proof
Post by: CrownVic316 on Aug 29, 2007, 4:47 PM
I'd love to keep telling him to shut up. :rolleyes: Besides, if you lock it then he'll just start a new thread and keep talking about it.
Oh, and Oliver, Shut the hell up, no one F***ing cares!! Keep it to yourself, alright?
Title: My proof
Post by: TS on Aug 29, 2007, 5:34 PM
I'd close it BMW, all this is doing is wasting our time and your bandwidth.
Title: My proof
Post by: -Aka-NFSWiLL on Aug 29, 2007, 7:39 PM
yeah true i guess. :werd:  :lol: