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Title: That 'Terminator' Police car .. continued ;)
Post by: FranknFurter on Jan 10, 2017, 7:03 AM
Back at work folks ... hard one after WE's kale debaucheries .. ;)

made the door decal and plate so far today see attached ... didn't get much better .. hope is ok for you ... :-\

that motto has become a bit too large perhaps but otherwise it wouldn't be much readable anymore .. :(

needs the 52" AeroDynic still (NYPD AeroTwin had a 48") and other stuff to do ... will see if I can do smth. about Arnie's face still I mean mapping that to the driver not a face job what would be better perhaps -LOL :P :)

(https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/564x/1d/61/c6/1d61c634d6ec6ca1a9de589e8f29ecef.jpg)

Btw does anyone know what trousers he wore on that scene .. haven't found pics .. needed for the driver's texture .. ???

Must he also have that pumpgun in his hand? 'Oh .. must I, Miss Sophie ..?' -nevermind- ..LOL

(http://www.imcdb.org/i005701.jpg)

Uh yes question still folks .. I haven't seen a unit number on the roof like LAPD cars normally had that, but since this is obviously an old CHP or whatever car it didn't have one ... that right so far? So I could use that free texture space for something else like .. Arnie's pretty face then? :o

How about also a K-9 unit? -LOL

(http://weknowmemes.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/10/terminator-puppy-240x180.jpg)
Title: Re: That 'Terminator' Police car .. continued ;)
Post by: FranknFurter on Jan 10, 2017, 10:56 AM
update: Arnie's face /off erhm .. done .. ok, one hour of work an' lots of beer so I could bear that °|o

Cheerio Ms. Sophie ..
Title: Re: That 'Terminator' Police car .. continued ;)
Post by: Dark One on Jan 10, 2017, 11:14 AM
Nice work so far, Frank. :D

The car (neither the Monaco, nor the Fury) indeed had no roof number, let alone the shop/unit number on trunk lid. Whether it was due to the unusual marking, with four digit unit number, or just lazy prop guys, it saves the texture for something else.

And I don't see anything wrong with the motto, just the police lettering is maybe too big. ;)

That Arnie looks "terminating" though. 8)
Title: Re: That 'Terminator' Police car .. continued ;)
Post by: FranknFurter on Jan 10, 2017, 11:22 AM
thx Dark One ..
hmm dunno .. that above large pic's again a darn backup vehicle so one cannot tell from that really .. the lettering size is a little too big ok .. but still readable and also sharp as well then ... have a look at attached 'policecar3_zps.. .jpg' above, I took that for prototype .. lettering is indeed smaller but mapping in this case wouldn't allow a much smaller size, I tried several different sizes but then lettering becomes flawy/blurry .. :(

Paul if you read this .. the 52" AeroDynic is underway, I will add the scaling values to the readme or somewhere so you can adapt it then to ur cars later k? Current value 1.32m (52") is 1.4m actually in Zmodeler meters grid so is just the usual 1.06 factor larger which is standard HS oversize rendering ..
Title: Re: That 'Terminator' Police car .. continued ;)
Post by: WiLL on Jan 10, 2017, 12:26 PM
I said this looks, Great!! Funny Dog face too: ))
Title: Re: That 'Terminator' Police car .. continued ;)
Post by: FranknFurter on Jan 11, 2017, 1:23 AM
Will continue with the lightbar today .. is that the correct standard CA setup you mean folks?
.. so will have then six rotator PAR 36 beams and outer flashers still, rear and frontal facing?
rear ones are orange then but can the cover remain red and blue? ... on the blue side cover is orange which was correct, that'd be a bit more work but ok with me if you want it that way ..

https://www.youtube.com/v/FjFOVOcGn5s

Wish I could do all that nice lighting pattern and flickering just like that .. if there were enough dummies for that :(

Question here: how do you want the lighting setup pattern at all? I mean, if I did the frontal steady ones with just an ODL it saves another two dummies, since it is also steady wouldn't look too good as usual in lightbars ..
Secondly, do you want the rear flashers be done or not? that's another two dummies left for a nice 'running lights' impression for the red and blue pattern, you decide ...

... as far as I have noticed the steady red and blue lights as well as the rear warning lights were mostly used when the vehicle is being parked up for backing up a crime or accident scenery? Don't want to got out on a limb with that, U.S. folks will certainly know better about that .. so I will look, listen and learn from you  ::)

Thought at first I had made a mistake on the NYPD Aerotwin but the speaker covers can in fact be different -LOL .. is it from newer or older versions that have that little closed surface in the upper middle part of the speaker cover? .. :-\

(http://up.autotitre.com/77a6a48095.jpg)

... confusing sometimes .. this NYPD 48" here below has that other (newer?) grille again .. :o
on most older pics I rather see the cover being with slots allover, so could that be an older version? ???

https://www.youtube.com/v/adMkSvDvvJQ

... was it ok if I did the 52" AeroDynic with that 'continuous' grille since that saves some texture space otherwise parts of the grille need to be remapped ..?
Title: Re: That 'Terminator' Police car .. continued ;)
Post by: FranknFurter on Jan 11, 2017, 7:31 AM
made some progress on the 'Terminator' car today .. AeroDynic is finished as well as some other details and refinements ...

have a look ... as a little gimmick I converted that 'Empire cop' from NFSIII to NFSIV as the 'external' cop ;)

Car is attached for testing, serial #47 ...

Have fun!
Title: Re: That 'Terminator' Police car .. continued ;)
Post by: WiLL on Jan 11, 2017, 9:25 AM
Hi there, pretty Wild!  :D An Nice I try get this today looks Fun!! Thanks for,um,all the Effort in this Frank really is Cool!  8)
I try get to town. Stupid Cell phone, Rights. An SD cards Hassles,  okay I know Broken Record.

Edited Post..

Hi Frank i was Just here,an Nabbed that Nice Works.
Then I'm going to Put Snow Tires on it,when i get er'
Home  =D 
Also getting programs for Rooting a Stupid Cell Phone?
Maybe i can Blow that up tonight ;)  =D
Have a Frosty one for me okay, (joking pal) :}
i had a pic on me so Y not show 1? ;}
Title: Re: That 'Terminator' Police car .. continued ;)
Post by: FranknFurter on Jan 11, 2017, 10:51 AM
thanks bro and get 'em sh..t all work out right betimes eh?

'also edit -LOL: yeah LAPD rocks ... :D

At this point I also want to say big thanks to Dark One .. was a really cool request and even if it started bit doughy it became something good and fun to do ^-^

Good thing also is that now we have a nice AeroDynic lightbar base for some other cars I still want to do ;)
Twinsonic is good and nice but AeroDynic rocks with them running lights always ... think I'm gonna update some scheduled cars with that new one still ;)

So if you find something still that is wrong or could be done better still let me also know, I'll 'see what I can do Sirs' -LOL

If all is ok also let me know so then the car goes to Remko for an upload thx in advance so far folks ..
Title: Re: That 'Terminator' Police car .. continued ;)
Post by: WiLL on Jan 11, 2017, 11:07 AM
Yeah, I hopeso?  Rite, an all... But, give me time to test her out good an all,i be looking for any Defects,Leaking Oil, u know, Burning oil, i hope not so much? ;) I'm on my way back to the Garage now.
thanks for the Funner day YW Cheers  ^-^   :) 8)
Title: Re: That 'Terminator' Police car .. continued ;)
Post by: Dark One on Jan 11, 2017, 11:26 AM
The pleasure is mine. It looks great! :D

And I agree on the Aerodynic. The running light is enchanting. Which is, why to this day is the Aerodynic (and also the Vector) my favorite kind of lightbar. :police:

Also, that Empire Cop... Priceless! 8)

At times like this, I wish there was HD remake of Empire City (MADMAN? ;) ).
Title: Re: That 'Terminator' Police car .. continued ;)
Post by: FranknFurter on Jan 11, 2017, 11:46 AM
Thx Dark One and nice to hear you like the outcome!

If there wasn't you making that suggestion I had delayed making a new AeroDynic so much is true thx for that input =D

Speaking of the Vector .. I also had made a nicer lively lighting scheme for that ... I reworked many DodgeBoy cars so also his '96 CHP and '92 NYPD Caprices bearing vectors with new taillight textures and stuff ..

Vector is a hard one to do because of the 7 dummies to get that in a proper flashing sequence .. middle one is a double fast since it is that 'swivelling' beacon on NYPD cars but not gonna tell too much .. ^-^

The 'Empire cop' is something I must tell .. thought that was only on NFS III but 'cop4.fce' in HS 'GameArt' folder is also the Empire cop .. funny isn't it? I only had to import that into CarCad and save as NFS IV .fce cop file .. :police:

Empire City or Empire backstreets in HD .. that were about cool .. dang .. :)

A little bit of an improvement already were having that overpass commuter train with some NY graffities on it -LOL =D
Title: Re: That 'Terminator' Police car .. continued ;)
Post by: Dark One on Jan 11, 2017, 12:04 PM
I remember also having nice pattern on Nils' cars with Vector. It went 1357642. :D
Title: Re: That 'Terminator' Police car .. continued ;)
Post by: FranknFurter on Jan 11, 2017, 12:09 PM
yeah I remember that we tried alot 'bout that darn pattern LOL .. his was a fiver speed then .. I made mine long ago with a sixer speed and that one double speed middle beacon ... ^-^

may sound sophisticated but .. when I start doing a lighting pattern I always try to avoid 'accumulations' of light sources or flashes .. means I try to give it a more or less 'floating' imaginery .. so sometimes it might appear strange but a well 'distribution' of light sources is of some meaning to me .. hard to understand I know .. I also try to give a pattern a certain catchy 'rythm' as well .. even worse to get that I know but a lighting sequence can also be seen as a kind of 'music' concerning its rythm .. :o

Dang I miss Nils so here on our community .. :(
Title: Re: That 'Terminator' Police car .. continued ;)
Post by: Dark One on Jan 11, 2017, 12:43 PM
You tell me. It was like yesterday, we laughed over the old bet between us. But the more active he was on the forum, the more busy I got with the work, and everything. :-\

Damn. The last thing I wanted now is to feel depressed over this.
Title: Re: That 'Terminator' Police car .. continued ;)
Post by: Paul Spain on Jan 11, 2017, 12:52 PM
Frank I did a great pattern for AeroDynic lightbars, It's damn close XD, I did one for the older 4 rotators 4 front/4 back flashers scheme and one for the standard issue 2 front/2 back flashers 6 rotators scheme, I'll show you when I get home, We unfortunatly block most vid sites here at work (what are they so scared of LOL?) As for the LAPD motto: To Care And Protect I wonder if maybe they changed Serve to Care because LAPD threatened legal action or something? I admit I'd never noticed it was altered like that til I saw that one pic from the movie, I'd never paid attention to that part LOL. 
Title: Re: That 'Terminator' Police car .. continued ;)
Post by: Dark One on Jan 11, 2017, 12:56 PM
Oh, right. And remember that rest of the police cars had "dedicated to serve" on them.
Title: Re: That 'Terminator' Police car .. continued ;)
Post by: FranknFurter on Jan 11, 2017, 1:01 PM
feel sry for that too .. ain't there a way to do a word of us all towards him ... like 'feel better pal' or so .. I know that doesn't help much but only as a sign of empathy towards him? .. dunno .. :-\

Spoke to him since that but felt wouldn't help much .. :(

Edit: @Paul thx to hear from u also pal ... that motto on recent car isn't at all real since taken from movie but 'to care and to protect' motto was certain request by Dark One so ... -LOL
Title: Re: That 'Terminator' Police car .. continued ;)
Post by: FranknFurter on Jan 12, 2017, 9:06 AM
You mentioned that already ... All other cars used in the movie had that 'dedicated to serve' motto on them .. makes me thinking 'bout .. could it be that that one car Arnie had used (in the stills and close-ups) should be a unique car that later was to be put up for an auction ...? -LOL

When I was searching for that motto decals I only found 'dedicated to serve ..' well ... another thought was that that unique motto on his sole car should have been an anticipation to the sequel where he then rather cared for and protected the Connors instead .. late conjectural thoughts of probable movie background that is .. ^-^

Or it just being a mistake like always ... :P

So if there are no objections and contradictions to the current outcome I will then prepare the upload and send the 'Arnie car' to Remko =D :police:
Title: Re: That 'Terminator' Police car .. continued ;)
Post by: Dark One on Jan 12, 2017, 11:53 AM
Maybe the lettering is too close. The way I see it mapped on the car, maybe it would help to move the lettering on the texture down a bit, and widen the distance between the lettering and car number a little. That way you won't even have to touch the modding tools, just resaving the texture, and it should still looks like on the screenshot. But that is the only nitpicking I can come up with, :lol: so just ignore me, and pass it through. ;)
Title: Re: That 'Terminator' Police car .. continued ;)
Post by: FranknFurter on Jan 12, 2017, 11:57 AM
dang would've told earlier pal ... just have sent the file to Remko -LOL

Ok I could tell him to withhold it still until I corrected the texture .. will any way take another day or two until is published .. :-\

You mean from .. this .. to .. that .. perhaps? It's one pixel's width lower like that ...
Title: Re: That 'Terminator' Police car .. continued ;)
Post by: Dark One on Jan 12, 2017, 12:00 PM
Nah. Just let it be. It's only due to the fact that you made the lettering bit bigger, that it looks too close now, but other than that it's perfect. ;)

Exactly. I should have told you earlier. :lol:


Also, it was apparent that the Furry and the other police cars that appeared in the movie, were reused from some other set, while the Monaco had the particular marking, and then there was the unit number, just printed on the paper, not even in the corresponding font and held in the place by a goddamn Scoth tape. :lol:
Title: Re: That 'Terminator' Police car .. continued ;)
Post by: FranknFurter on Jan 12, 2017, 12:09 PM
no prob for me pal .. just want it to be perfect ... your wish is my command then .. ^-^

seems also right to me, also like it better that way .. ;)
Title: Re: That 'Terminator' Police car .. continued ;)
Post by: Dark One on Jan 12, 2017, 12:14 PM
Remko will punish us both :lol: but thanks either way.
Title: Re: That 'Terminator' Police car .. continued ;)
Post by: FranknFurter on Jan 12, 2017, 12:15 PM
as not to say 'kill' us -LOL .. think he's used to that not only by me .. no prob pal ...

needs a big bouquet of flowers betimes .. if he was a woman .. ;)

what if we sent to him a nice pallet of Dutch beer 'Heinecken' u know sometimes .. =D
Title: Re: That 'Terminator' Police car .. continued ;)
Post by: FranknFurter on Jan 12, 2017, 12:34 PM
ok I have sent the altered texture zipped as well as the whole new Car.viv to Remko .. hope we're not being banned for that ..
Title: Re: That 'Terminator' Police car .. continued ;)
Post by: Dark One on Jan 12, 2017, 12:40 PM
Lets just say, that the car is as good as it can get now. ;)

Else Remko will really terminate us. :lol:
Title: Re: That 'Terminator' Police car .. continued ;)
Post by: FranknFurter on Jan 12, 2017, 1:22 PM
So ur not to upset that Arnie doesn't wear a pumpgun? -LOL