I'm looking for people who actually kept the NFS1 to NFS2SE files for NFS3. There are only at least 2 NFSSE tracks available for NFS3 right now which is Mystic Peaks and Pacific Spirit right now on the website after nd4spdworld has been taken down which had Las Vegas, Monolithic Studios, and other tracks. I know there is NFS1-NFS2SE tracks available for the expansion packs for NFSHS and I know that T3ED quite had some tips on certain information about NFS2 track variables and NFS3 track variable.
Yes! I finally found the site. This is the first one that came to mind when I saw this thread, though I'm not sure it will be as much help as you might be looking for. Okay, Dennis Auroux created these authoring/converting tools, as far as I know. And his new NFS site is here (http://www-math.mit.edu/~auroux/software/index.html), and states "Most of these tools are now obsolete, with two exceptions." Which is too bad, because I'd like to see his "obsolete" tools in case he has them. Even so, on the new site he has T3ED and FSHtool. I'm guessing you are after the obsolete stuff. So:
Here's his old NFS site (http://www.math.polytechnique.fr/cmat/auroux/nfs/), which is apparently still online. Here, he also hosts the T3ED and FSHtool but there is also a lot more including track editors for NFS1 / converters Track1to2 / etc.
So now you can find NFS1 and NFS2SE (even edited versions of) tracks. But for NFS2. So, now you need, essentially, a "TRACK2TO3" program. And I have NO clue where that is. But I'll look, and post back
Another NFSII track editor:
http://www.totalnfs.net/nfs2/tools/TRACKEDITOR.ZIP
but still not conversion :(
Maybe we should ask IPLounge forums, on iplounge.net, how they converted the NFSII SE tracks into NFS4 format. Or how to convert NFS4 tracks into NFS3 format - TRACK4TO3, conceptually, should be easy. Problmed is there are probably some track-added features in NFS4 and AI lines, etc, that could mess up a straight-out drag-and-drop from NFS4 to NFS3. Even so, I'm sure that's much more possible.
I guess you could just download the NFS HS Expansion Pack, install it, extract the tracks, and convert them into NFS3 (for your own personal use). I'm sure other people in the NFS community who still play NFS3 would like to have them too, but we'd have to gather permission from the authors of the HS Expansion Pack, or the original converters.
- FM
I might still have a few on my pc from NFSes pre NFS3. I know I had Outback and Pcific Spirit, but am unsire if I still have them, I'll look tonight. I got them from NFS-GB, which was good for NFS Tracks. A good original one was City2se, which was based on NYC....but from what I can tell the site is gone. Anyone know any different?
Quote from: FerrariManAnother NFSII track editor:
http://www.totalnfs.net/nfs2/tools/TRACKEDITOR.ZIP
but still not conversion :(
Maybe we should ask IPLounge forums, on iplounge.net, how they converted the NFSII SE tracks into NFS4 format. Or how to convert NFS4 tracks into NFS3 format - TRACK4TO3, conceptually, should be easy. Problmed is there are probably some track-added features in NFS4 and AI lines, etc, that could mess up a straight-out drag-and-drop from NFS4 to NFS3. Even so, I'm sure that's much more possible.
I guess you could just download the NFS HS Expansion Pack, install it, extract the tracks, and convert them into NFS3 (for your own personal use). I'm sure other people in the NFS community who still play NFS3 would like to have them too, but we'd have to gather permission from the authors of the HS Expansion Pack, or the original converters.
- FM
At the moment now, converting NFS4 track to NFS3 would be impossible since T3ED haven't provided the feature to straight up converting it. Also, keep in mind that the converters have no bearings into owning the material since they were not the original authors of the model. EA is the original author of the converted track. However, I'd like to know where's the TRACK2to3. Keep me updated on the NFS4to3 thing and the track. Considering the amount of downloads of the NFS2 converted into NFS3 track I had uploaded at NFSCARS, there are plenty who still play NFS3.
Quote from: bucksavageI might still have a few on my pc from NFSes pre NFS3. I know I had Outback and Pcific Spirit, but am unsire if I still have them, I'll look tonight. I got them from NFS-GB, which was good for NFS Tracks. A good original one was City2se, which was based on NYC....but from what I can tell the site is gone. Anyone know any different?
Yes. The NFSGB was taken down. I'll keep my hope on those tracks. Pacific Spirit can be found either at NFSCARS site which I had found originally on nfsunlimited just like I found Mystic Peaks.
I looked around today and I may have located the former webmaster of NFSGB today...but I won't confirm this until I get a message back. I also emailed the former webmaster of nd4spdworld, who seemed to host NFSGB to see if he can give me a hand with this as I'd like to get some of the tracks back myself. I'd really like a NFS4 version of City2se...the track is simply awesome.
I'm going to leave this message as a reminder for you to notify me about the tracks. I think they don't have ti anymore.
I heard that some guy called Vitalyn Kootin (I don't remember well the name) did a TNFSSE/NFS2SE to HS track converting program, but is nowhere to find now.
Yes, Vitalin has originally created the method for NFS2 track to be converted into NFS3. I'd like to know who have it if there's anyone that have it. As for bucksavage, any respond to the e-mails?
Vitaly Kootin aka. Necromancer helped a lot in developing the T3ED. When you look at the "About T3ED" message you see he worked together with Nappe1 on the plus editions. Maybe he knows more.
*Bumps. I got in touch with another programmer who extracted the NFS1 game track to be recreated. Now I'm going to wait for the response to see if he will do the request of doing it for NFS3. We'll wait for the response. See if you people can get in touch with him.
http://1amstudios.com/games/NeedForSpeed/
Quote from: FerrariMan on Dec 22, 2010, 6:18 AM
Another NFSII track editor:
http://www.totalnfs.net/nfs2/tools/TRACKEDITOR.ZIP
but still not conversion :(
Maybe we should ask IPLounge forums, on iplounge.net, how they converted the NFSII SE tracks into NFS4 format. Or how to convert NFS4 tracks into NFS3 format - TRACK4TO3, conceptually, should be easy. Problmed is there are probably some track-added features in NFS4 and AI lines, etc, that could mess up a straight-out drag-and-drop from NFS4 to NFS3. Even so, I'm sure that's much more possible.
I guess you could just download the NFS HS Expansion Pack, install it, extract the tracks, and convert them into NFS3 (for your own personal use). I'm sure other people in the NFS community who still play NFS3 would like to have them too, but we'd have to gather permission from the authors of the HS Expansion Pack, or the original converters.
- FM
The guys from IPLounge didn't convert the tracks themselves, they just found existing conversions and tweaked them to the point they were bug-free. As far as I remember, they've already tried looking for the tools to convert tracks from NFS1 and 2 to NFS4. If my memory serves me correctly, they were able to find the tool to convert from 2 to 4, but it was useless since they already had all the tracks from 2SE. The ones they needed were Burnt Sienna and Transtropolis from 1SE, however they could neither find nor convert them. It's not possible to convert from 1 to 4, only from 1 to 2 and then to 4, and for some reason they couldn't do that.
Quote from: ExoticLover on Dec 22, 2010, 3:26 PMAt the moment now, converting NFS4 track to NFS3 would be impossible since T3ED haven't provided the feature to straight up converting it. Also, keep in mind that the converters have no bearings into owning the material since they were not the original authors of the model. EA is the original author of the converted track.
Wait a moment, in case you utilise the IPLounge versions of the tracks, you do need to ask for their permission! They worked very hard to iron out the bugs the original conversions had (most importantly the sticky guardrails and invisible walls around the tracks) and they deserve all the recognition they can get. Please don't do something as thoughtless as using their tracks without their permission.
@Exoticlover: I heard back from Giles Bett, former webmaster of NFS-GB once on facebook, but he has not replied to the reply I sent him. As for Texhnolinth...no reply whatsoever. Anyone know if he goes by a different name now, or a different email account?
The guy who did the NFS1 recreation has responded to me stating that he doesn't know what it takes to convert NFS2 to NFS3 although he managed to obtain NFS1 format and been able to create a program which reads the format. He does seem to be willing to help, but he needs info on NFS2 track formats and NFS3 track formats. He's directed to here.
hey guys
I'm searching for a converted version of the NFS2 Monolithic Studios (Hollywood) track for NFS III.
Unless you have it stored somewhere, you are not going to find it. If you could convert NFS1 and NFS2 track by decoding and then encoding into the nfs3 track formats, then it is possible to recover those files. That's the only way we are going to ever get back those tracks.
was the Hollwood ever convertiert for nfs 3 ?
It was on the nfsgb.nd4spdworld site before the whole nd4spdworld got taken down. The evidence that the track can be converted is from my uploaded track at nfscars site which is mystic peaks and pacific spirit in which both were from nfs2. There's a converter that could convert nfs1 to nfs2, so that enough to prove that these track can be converted.
can you get me the track? Well hollywood ? i love nfs 3 and 4. and i want hollywood for nfs 3 because nfs 2 tracks are nice
you're "nfs proskiller" i beg you
Sorry, I do not have the knowledge to reverse engineer those track format and convert it into another format. If I could know how to work with these format, then I would. However, I do have mystic peaks and pacific spirit which both can be found in the links below. Might as well upload them here.
- http://www.nfscars.net/file/view/hotpursuit/12640.aspx (Pacific Spirit)
- http://www.nfscars.net/file/view/hotpursuit/12629.aspx (Mystic Peaks)
I got some updates. I contacted moronzilla who should have those track files hidden into his 20 TB stash of files and he doesn't delete stuff. He might have gotten the track files if it true and he might give it to me. So I'll update you folks from here even though it old, but the tracks are lost and I"m here to recover it.
Well, if he has City2se and someone can convert that to NFS4, I'd love to have it.
He have everything, but it took him a while for him to find mystic peaks in his drive. He remembers the detail too. So, I think he might have that. Will update you on the city2se.
There once was a tool to convert NFS 3 tracks to NFS 4, does anyone still have it..?
WHat was the name? I had the tools which would convert NFS2 cars to NFS3 & NFS3 ones to NFS4. If I remember it was Car2to3 & there was also car3to4.
SO with regards to that, is it called Track2to3?
It might be called TRACK2TO3, but test out that and search number 2 and 3 and short key like trk to find clues for that converter and please give us the converter as well. I did found the tool to convert nfs1 track to nfs2. So if you do have it, burnt sienna and transtropolis will be possible for both nfs3 and nfs4, but I would like you to convert the entire tracks from nfs1 to nfs2 for nfs3.
I'm proceeding to starting the conversion of Burnt Sienna and Transtropolis into NFS3 and NFS4 getting ready to convert in case if Roadster gives it the converter of NFS2 to NFS3. Also, I shall convert the other tracks. After this, the NFS4 expansion pack will be complete and will is the converted track set for NFS3.
^ Ohh, yeah!
Wow, I hope you are successful !
I already tried to make a stupid function in T3ED to save NFS3 tracks in NFS4 format. But all I got was track file NFS3 & 4 couldn't read. :(
Quote from: ExoticLover on Feb 23, 2011, 1:54 AM
I'm proceeding to starting the conversion of Burnt Sienna and Transtropolis into NFS3 and NFS4 getting ready to convert in case if Roadster gives it the converter of NFS2 to NFS3. Also, I shall convert the other tracks. After this, the NFS4 expansion pack will be complete and will is the converted track set for NFS3.
You mean me?
I had the car tools. Not track tools. :o
If you hear about City2se from \this guy, Exoticlover, let me know. I just wish that the guy who ran NFSGB had completed the 3rd version of it, but it never got done...at least not as far as I know.
Well, I never heard back from him. He had trouble finding it in his 20TB stash of files and he had it completely disorganized. Looks like I have no choice, but to find someone to recreate the tools.
Oh well....
20TB is too much. Making him search for them will take less time rather than you finding some to remake the tools. I don't think anyone's gonna do a tool for this classic game at this time.
I have to admit - I'm not sure why one would play NFS III instead of 4... unless they've got a truly ancient PC. Anyway, I'll try to look a bit more for this. I hope you succeed too ;)
That is strange though that you can't convert NFS4 tracks to NFS III.
I'm looking for the nfs3 .mnu files.Anyone?
Quote from: noise on Jun 08, 2011, 2:05 AM
I'm looking for the nfs3 .mnu files.Anyone?
I didn't want to wait after asking you which one specifically, so I zipped up everything that was in the FEDATA/MENUS directory. ;)
Hope it helps.
Funny, after putting the NFS3 disc in my tray and seeing the autorun pop up, I was tempted to re-install it. ;D I just was too lazy to figure out what it took to run it on a current xp setup, and tbh I didn't play it much over the past few years, even when I had it installed next to NFS HS.
Quote from: Remko on Jun 08, 2011, 1:55 PM
Quote from: noise on Jun 08, 2011, 2:05 AM
I'm looking for the nfs3 .mnu files.Anyone?
I didn't want to wait after asking you which one specifically, so I zipped up everything that was in the FEDATA/MENUS directory. ;)
Hope it helps.
Funny, after putting the NFS3 disc in my tray and seeing the autorun pop up, I was tempted to re-install it. ;D I just was too lazy to figure out what it took to run it on a current xp setup, and tbh I didn't play it much over the past few years, even when I had it installed next to NFS HS.
NFS 3 is just a beta of NFS 4 anyways.. :P
Thnx Remko, I used to have nfs3 but I gave to a friend.
Gonna check out that history.mnu of nfs3.There is one in nfs4 but it's unused.I hope to find a way to make it work.
I found nice collection on nfscars net
Where did you found the nice collection of lost tracks of NFSCARS? I already found a contact.
I was talking about the same,
http://www.nfscars.net/forum/showthread.php?t=32091
on nfs cars are uplaoded pacific spirit and mystic peaks
http://pc.cheats.de/cheats_nurtitel_typ.php?system=PC&titelonly=Need+for+Speed+3&sortierung=datum_update&seite=1&sort=&typ=Add-On
here you can find nfs1 rusty springs, Acapulco is Last Resort, Mystic Peaks
As of nd4spdworld, I saw there many tracks, as of Giles Bett, he had some tracks that no one had, like old Hockenheim in forest for nfs3, his site deosn't work anymore
http://giles-bett.tripod.com/
I know about Bett's tracks, they we damned good. I desperately want a version of his City 2se track converted to NFS HS.
Well, we can always start to work on track modding project for NFS3. I would like to do a city as well. I'ld be willing to do it if someone else team up with me.
That would be awesome! Betts tracks were damn well constructed for the most part, I think I only found one I didn't like, can't remember which one though. City2se was slated for an upgraded Version 3 but never got it. I'd love to see someone get permission and the files for the track and work the magic with the modding tools as they are now to bring it to NFS HS glory! Some of the NFS HS tracks of the last year or two have been awesome!!!
I definetely agree with this
Update:
I digged on web archive of nfsgb and I found many nfs1 and nfs2 tracsk for nfs3:
nfs1
Autumn Valley
Egyptian
Rusty Springs
nfs2
Monolithic Studios
Proving Grounds
Pacific Spirit
Outback
North Country
Mediteranneo
also found Last Resort, but download link didn't work
I can uplaod it on nfscars if somebody interested, all are on my pc
I looked into the link into the archive. There was City2SE as well (you should try it). Andrew one of my contact has last resort and few more other tracks that aren't available.
I've raced City, City2 and City2se. They are all pretty damned awesome. Only one, City, I believe had the occasional invisible wall glitch, but it was gone from version 2 and version 2se.
Here it is
http://web.archive.org/web/20081119152432/http://nfsgb.nd4spdworld.com/nfs3/tracks2.html
http://web.archive.org/web/20080622163459/http://nfsgb.nd4spdworld.com/nfs3/tracks4.html
http://web.archive.org/web/20080622164109/http://nfsgb.nd4spdworld.com/nfs3/tracks3.html
to exotic lover: pm me and I will tell you how to send me last resort and lost vegas, I want that 2 tracks.
I also uploaded one track at nfscars, I am waiting for approval
Alright, I got last resort for NFS3 and not sure for what this sunset track is. I will look into that. I'll also PM you those two tracks in just a minute.
Anyone able to obtain all converted tracks from NFSSE/NFS2SE ?
Quote from: Caesar007 on May 28, 2023, 3:50 AM
Anyone able to obtain all converted tracks from NFSSE/NFS2SE ?
https://nfs3expansionpack.webs.com/
There you go son
2 of 3 links are still up
Inside the Expansion Pack you can find most of the tracks you mentioned